Also, possible good sites with some up to date guides so I can get a feel of what I'm doing?
To know me is to want to throw me off a cliff.
Tip: If you start a Warrior, put all your points into STA, then the last 5 in STR. Also, it no longer matters what race you pick, except for faction differences.
Maybe not THAT fast, but still damn fast.
As for class... choose what best fits you. Like casting, be an echanter/cleric. Like fighting, be a warrior/rogue. Like doing everything, be a bard. etc etc etc.
Barbarian Warrior
Euridite Wizard
Gnome Magician
Human Monk
Half elf Rogue
These are good starting classes. Few faction problems, and nothing too complex to deal with.
Some races (Vah Shir, Iksar) and classes (Enchanter, Bard) are have issues that make them a less than perfect choice for a new player.
Some races get an innate bonus (unstunnability for ogres, regen for iksar and trolls, etc)
And some get Races only items (root necklace for wood elf druids, snare necklace for troll shamans, etc.)
quote:Unstunnabilty and regen are nice, but they're certainly not game altering, except the regen for Necros. And maybe shaman. Plus, with the regen comes a 20% exp modifier. So it really is balanced. ;P
Cetona had this to say about (_|_):
Some races get an innate bonus (unstunnability for ogres, regen for iksar and trolls, etc)
As for those fruity rangers and druids, who cares? 
Warrior ~ Hack, slash, repeat
Magician ~ Go pet go! Own for me! Ummm, heres a nuke
Wizard ~ Nuke, Nuke, Nuke, Med
Enchanter ~ Mez,Mez,Mez,Mez... have I mentioned lately I've saved all your butts 47 times over?
Necro ~ Go pet go! Own for me! I am a mana battery in groups
Paladin ~ Everyone thinks I suck compared to a warrior, but I don't
Shadowknight ~ What he said. We cast spells too
Ranger ~ I'm a quasi-tank with druid spells. I can own you with bows from afar in the end
Cleric ~ Med, Med, Med, Med, Heal, Heal, Heal... and without me, you all would die
Druid ~ Watch me kite! Watch me level! Now watch me try to group later on when there are 38272829304 other druids
Monk ~ I deal damage, lots of it... and I have a big red label 'Puller' stamped on my forehad
Rogue ~ I do stupid amounts of damage from behind, and everyone hates me because I pickpocket
Bard ~ I sing stuff, people always want to make me just sit there and do nothing, they refuse to believe I can attack
Beastlord ~ I'm a half monk with a tiger, rarr!
I was bored, heh
Personally I reccommend a hybrid to anyone 
I find them the most interesting
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Vorago had this to say about Cuba:
Bard ~ I sing stuff, people always want to make me just sit there and do nothing, they refuse to believe I can attack
Whoah, we bards can ATTACK?
Which patch did they put that in?
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Cetona had this to say about (_|_):
regen are nice, but they're certainly not game altering, except the regen for Necros. And maybe shaman. Plus, with the regen comes a 20% exp modifier. So it really is balanced. ;P
Iksar shaman make the worst shamans in the game, no offense. Just letting people know, they can't use JBB and all the tools that make shamans, shaman.
Trolls actually gain exp faster than other races even with the penalty because they kill more than 20% faster
btw, iksar are not the worst, Innate regen > JBB
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Kirane had this to say about Punky Brewster:
[qb] Iksar shaman make the worst shamans in the game, no offense. Just letting people know, they can't use JBB and all the tools that make shamans, shaman.
ono, no JBB. They can't root a mob, sic pet on it, and infinitely cast mana free nukes, THEY AREN'T SHAMANS!
Flawed logic! GO! [ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: Densetsu ]
Rogues are just fun, fun, fun... And Wood Elves have great starting stats (add all bonus points in STR) and natural forage!
Should've said something, but I've said it enough
By the way my words were faded
Rather waste some time with you...
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Densetsu wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
ono, no JBB. They can't root a mob, sic pet on it, and infinitely cast mana free nukes, THEY AREN'T SHAMANS!Flawed logic! GO!
Its true, JBB basicly defines the class 45-58. I got mine at 46 and could never imagine life without it.
Also iksars have the lowest STA, which is an important stat when it comes to shamans. We are semi main tanks when mobs are pulled because of aggrso on slows and debuffs. I'm MT'd many many uber mobs
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Kirane said:
Its true, JBB basicly defines the class 45-58. I got mine at 46 and could never imagine life without it.Also iksars have the lowest STA, which is an important stat when it comes to shamans. We are semi main tanks when mobs are pulled because of aggrso on slows and debuffs. I'm MT'd many many uber mobs
...Just stop talking.
I know MANY shamans who are over level 55 and have never had a JBB. NOT HAVING A JBB DOES NOT MAKE YOU ANY LESS OF A SHAMAN.
Also, by your logic, an ogre is the best shaman. Ya know what? You're a caster. Once you deal with your mana pool, THEN you can worry about stamina. Want more HP? Wear items that GIVE HP. Iksars have the highest wis, plus regen. In my opinion, that makes then the BEST shamans.
Canni >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JBB
Trolls are the best.
Strength is extremely easy to raise but stamina items can be hard to come by and you'll need it in the end.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent The Black Mage... said:
REGEN IS KING YOU IDIOT FOR CANNI.Canni >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JBB
Trolls are the best.
Whats regen with torpor? Almost instant cheal for only 200 mana.
I'm talking high end game and nothing else, which I don't think I pointed out earlier. Yes ogres probly do make the best shamans, if you want to deal with the massive size, bad faction, fugliness. For me, its dark elf for life(gotta love Guise).
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Check out the big brain on Kirane!
Whats regen with torpor? Almost instant cheal for only 200 mana.I'm talking high end game and nothing else, which I don't think I pointed out earlier. Yes ogres probly do make the best shamans, if you want to deal with the massive size, bad faction, fugliness. For me, its dark elf for life(gotta love Guise).
Go back to EQ school.
Torpor is super regen, right, but it last how many canni's? 2? 3, tops? Tell me how efficant that 200 mana is now. It's not how far you can refill from nearly no life, it's how long it takes you to get down there. More HP + Regen = More Canni, therefore more mana efficancy. Reynar could explain it 200x better than me.
And no, Ogres are not the best. I've met a few lew 60 Shaman Ogres, they all wish they were Trolls. Trolls have the regen over em to startThose both can use JBB... And because you seem to think utility items make or break a class, Trolls get a snare necklace at... Level 4? Or something. Very useful.
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The Black Mage... had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
And no, Ogres are not the best. I've met a few lew 60 Shaman Ogres, they all wish they were Trolls. Trolls have the regen over em to start
To start, but once AA takes place, theres no difference now :/
[edit] [ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: Skaw ]
woops, deleted the /qb
as for the high mana thing... you can have all the mana in the world.. but if you cant take the aggro from 1 failed slow it dont mean jack... and Clarity makes up for it...
and as for the JBB thing.. I know many a shaman that could knock easily 20 or 30 deaths off their toll if they had that mana free nuke... and some of the strategies for Shamans being able to solo call for that oh so wonderful nuke... its a lifesaver
Edit: forgot the good starting class... try a Warrior a Cleric and a Mage/Enchanter... decide which one you like the most then experiment with all of those types of classes... best way to mold yourself in the game [ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: Fizodeth ]
You might have the illusion that getting hit while trying to get a root off is tanking. It isn't.
When a strong mob is pulled, and the cleric is lom, you won't see a shaman going 'Oh don't worry, i'll tank it while you med!' If anything, that 'tanking' would consist of rooting the mob.
I, on the other hand, as a Monk, CAN say, 'Oh don't worry! I'll tank it for a bit while you med!'
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Densetsu had this to say about (_|_):
I'm sorry, Shamans DO NOT TANK.
I didnt say that Shamans tanked.. but if you ever watch in places like Umbral.. unless an iksar shaman is WELL BUILT and has the BEST of equipment they go down FAST when they botch a slow... they dont tank by choice... its pushed upon them
quote:Shamans and EVERY OTHER CLASS that's not ment to take damage goes down fast, reguardless of
Fizodeth had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
I didnt say that Shamans tanked.. but if you ever watch in places like Umbral.. unless an iksar shaman is WELL BUILT and has the BEST of equipment they go down FAST when they botch a slow... they dont tank by choice... its pushed upon them
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unless aniksarshaman is WELL BUILT...
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