ps. I'm really, really not in the mood for another Intel/AMD war thread, I just want to know when I'll be able to get one 
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Karnaj had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
The so-called "Generation 8" chips? I heard Q3 2002.
That's now, isn't it? 
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ImNotTrent had this to say about Cuba:
No. It's not now.
now is Q2?
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Maradön? thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
now is Q2?
yep, q3 i think starts in july
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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This one time, at Maradön? camp:
now is Q2?
Yep.
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Karnaj painfully thought these words up:
I recall reading it on the AMD website, but I'm occupied with a final paper for my history course, so I'll leave you to find it for yourself.
LET ME GUESS!!
amd.com?
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Check out the big brain on Maradön?!
LET ME GUESS!!amd.com?
I found nothing on that site 
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There was much rejoicing when Blind Swordsman said this:
Just keep in mind you will need a 600 watt powersupply with the new amd cores. i'm not joking.
No, you're not joking, you're lying
Intel fanboy [ 05-07-2002: Message edited by: Maradön? ]
Gives me something to think about, though.
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From the book of Mortious, chapter 3, verse 16:
Hmmm... nah, I think my good 'ol 1GHz will be ok for another half-year.Gives me something to think about, though.
/agree
If not longer.
Yes, I'd rather have a mega-PC than a car.
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Mortious wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Yes, I'd rather have a mega-PC than a car.
Go go RQG! hehe.
Good choice. In a car, you have to actually like, drive everywhere you go, requiring a lot more skill then it takes to type www.evercrest.com in a browser and go halfway across the world.
ATHLON 
ATHLON ATHLON ATHLON.
NOT ATHALON FOOL.
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Maradön? had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
No, you're not joking, you're lyingIntel fanboy
Sure i am...
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Blind Swordsman painfully thought these words up:
Sure i am...
where did you read that you'll need a 600w PS?
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
where did you read that you'll need a 600w PS?
I've never seen so many numbers pulled out of one's ass before BSM started talking computers. :\
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Mortious spewed forth this undeniable truth:
I have my "list", which is a £5000 full custom PC upgrade. I update it every so often, so when I have the cash I can splash out on a custom mega-PC... possibly two. Given my current wage, and the fact I have zero outgoing payments, that'll take me around three months to save for.Yes, I'd rather have a mega-PC than a car.
5000£...in THREE MONTHS?! What the FUCK? 
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Falaanla Marr wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
where did you read that you'll need a 600w PS?
He must have done some "math".
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Drysart said:
He must have done some "math".
i think maybe he overclocked a 300 or 400 watt power supply or something.
BUT IF I HAVE A BIGGER POWER SUPPLY I WILL HAVE A BIGGER WANG.
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D obviously shouldn't have said:
I've never seen so many numbers pulled out of one's ass before BSM started talking computers. :\
Instead of having a budget chip, AMD is going to replace the Athlon MPs with Opteron (Hammer) chips. The ClawHammer is the 32-bit workstation version, the SledgeHammer is the 64-bit server version.
Yea...and stuff.
-Tok
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Toktuk spewed forth this undeniable truth:
SledgeHammer
This is one of the funniest names I've seen for a processor.
Oh well, I guess I won't buy my Athlon MPs yet ;p
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The Thoroughbred core was touched on a bit, but not really much even though people are saying the launch is just around the corner. "Smaller, Cooler, Faster" was the message being broadcasted. It was discussed that the Barton (SOI core technology) would have 384K on-die L2 cache as well.Thoroughbred CPUs will initially stretch deep into Palomino MHz territory. Here is not only a list, but also required voltages for the TBred CPUs.
1.5V - 1700+, 1800+, 1900+
1.6V - 2000+, 2100+
1.65V - 2200+Also PSU power was heavily touched on for the system builder present. It was stressed that over wattage rating for PSUs was not important, but rather the 5V rail is what to pay attention to. A minimum of 45AMPs will be required on the 5V rail due to TBred power consumption. The rail amperage rating should be printed on pretty much any PSU you find.
[ 05-07-2002: Message edited by: Blind Swordsman ]
Where'd you get those numbers anyhow? Everything I've read points to how the Thoroughbred core offers a 20% or more reduction in power consumption. [ 05-07-2002: Message edited by: Drysart ]
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This one time, at Drysart camp:
So 250 watts... where's the other 350 spent?
Find me a powersupply that will go to 45 amps on the 5v rail that is rated under 250 watts. Or 400 watts for that matter.
quote:Fanboi land.
So quoth Drysart:
So 250 watts... where's the other 350 spent?
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Black Mage had this to say about Pirotess:
Fanboi land.
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Find me a powersupply that will go to 45 amps on the 5v rail that is rated under 250 watts. Or 400 watts for that matter
[ 05-07-2002: Message edited by: Blind Swordsman ]
If you'd like us to something ON AMD'S DOMAIN, I'll listen to you. Until then, don't act like we trust you on word alone.
They've released info on the OPTERON, with the Hammer core. The server/workstation chip. Gee, that wouldn't have higher power reqs!
But I see no real signs of hard info on the Desktop CPU yet. Point us to it, and we might take you seriously.
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So quoth Drysart:
Where'd you get those numbers anyhow? Everything I've read points to how the Thoroughbred core offers a 20% or more reduction in power consumption.
Strange thing is, I went out looking myself with identical results.
He's probably using numbers from an overclocked Duron or something
