In other words, I need to find someone to flame, officially and reasonably. 
Verant
Mythic
Microsoft
Nintendo
I know it. Im not suggesting them, just callin it now. 
Or the fuckers who will sit there, and talk to your wife, ask how she's doing, then bullshit a couple minutes, before asking to talk to me.. THEN hit me with the "We need your money" bullshit.
I got one of these calls this morning. He talked to my mother for a minute, then asked to speak to me, pretending he was my fucking BOSS. Then, he tells me I'm behind on my bill.. (This is because the company sucks, and has different databases for bills paid, and bills unpaid, and people who should be harassed) I PAID my bill the other day. I tell him this. He says I need to pay again anyway. He asks if he can set up a direct withdrawl from my checking account.
I said "The FUCK are you smoking, Bozo?"
He HE asks me if theres another commitment I can make, like a post-dated check over the phone..
Which he had JUST asked me to do.
"What do you think I am, Bozo? Stupid?"
So he asks if theres another commitment I cna make, like giving him my credit card number. So I insult him once more, and call him a Bozo again. Blah, blah, blah..
Anyway, Bill collectors should be forced to tell you who they are when they call, and not pull this "I'm pretending to be somebody he wants to talk to" shit.
And QUIT FUCKING CALLING ME BY MY FIRST NAME LIKE YOU KNOW ME!!!
THey address me common, and wont tell me thier real name, or thier first name.. what the fuck is THAT shit about?
GODDAMIT!
Sorry for the rant/hijack Lash.. you can beat me for it later.
. Im thinking of things like lobbying groups or special interest groups more than corporations, because I feel I can gripe about them and attack their issues better. I dont have a real complaint with Microsoft that I can make into a legitimate complaint, I dont have a real problem with Verant (OMG, u nerfed me isnt a legitimate complaint, ) that I can think of, etc. etc.quote:
ACES! Another post by Talorynn:
Sorry for the rant/hijack Lash.. you can beat me for it later.
You'd like that, wouldn't you?
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Lashanna spewed forth this undeniable truth:
You'd like that, wouldn't you?
Umm...
not if you told me not to?
(I think the random quote thingy has some kinda ESP thing going.. WTF?) [ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Talorynn ]
quote:I would.
Lashanna impressed everyone with:
You'd like that, wouldn't you?
Where's the line?
I'd complain to Verant.
There are federal laws governing the business practices of collection agencies. For example, they aren't allowed to give you false information about the organization they work for, or why they are calling. They are, however, allowed to withhold certain information. In some cases it's even required. For example, a bill collector may call for you, but your mother answers. The collector will say, "Hi, I'm calling for John about a personal business matter." If asked who they are, they can use an abbreviation of the company's name, or simply insist that they must speak to you. They do this because they're not allowed to let anyone else know that you owe money, unless that person is financially responsible for you (and they have to KNOW the person is financially responsible for you).
Once they get you on the line, and confirm that you're the person they're trying to reach ("Are you John Keegan? Can you tell me the last four digits of your social?"), they will generally open up a bit more on the matter. They'll tell you the full company name, and the name of the credit card company or other loan facility that they're calling "on behalf of".
If you already paid your bill in full, they are supposed to note this, and set the system to call you back after two business days. This gives your payment time to clear. However, if your payment doesn't clear in that time, they are likely to believe that your payment was not received (maybe lost in the mail, or perhaps the bank will not acknowledge it because the collection facility now handles the account), and ask you to make arrangements through their company.
They're not supposed to offer the same option multiple times, especially not pretending that it's several methods of payment. However, they are allowed to explain it to you, because many people have no idea what a "direct check" is, or how it works.
How do I know all this? I'm sitting here watching about 10 people making these calls, for a credit card company that has gone bankrupt and will be merged into another bank by the FDIC before the end of this year.
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Lashanna was naked while typing this:
Im thinking of things like lobbying groups or special interest groups more than corporations, because I feel I can gripe about them and attack their issues better.
P.E.T.A.
[Edit]: A quick search found a good place to start with them. [ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/headline_detail.cfm?HEADLINE_ID=1386
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A sleep deprived Palador ChibiDragon stammered:
P.E.T.A.
I agree wholeheartedly.
But what ever you do... dont try to get rid of the "I'd rather go naked then wear fur" ads
[ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Zarconeth ]
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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Siliddar wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Complain to Verant about the bad CS. You dont have to go "you nerfed me, die plz k thx". Tell them about bad experiences you have had with GM's/guides. If you dont have enough to fill the letter, I got a million. Ask the boards, We've got plenty of GM horror stories. Address the issue of how they always believe that the customer is always lieing/wrong.
Can I complain about the jackasses from the POV of a former guide?
You know WHY guides feel like that? If they dont, they get in trouble. Thats why GMs are like that, too. For every honest player out there, there are likely 2 trying to scam the system.
Its nothing against the players. Its to be safe.
And players treat guides and GMs like pure shit. Then they complain when the guides arent happy go lucky people.
fal
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Talorynn stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
And QUIT FUCKING CALLING ME BY MY FIRST NAME LIKE YOU KNOW ME!!!
In the guy's defense, they force you to do that.
I know they force you to do that because they force me to do that when I address customers, and I adamantly refuse to
They'll say "You have to use the customer's first name!"
and I'll say "But I don't know the customer..."
and they'll say "That's the point, you're supposed to make it seem like you know them!"
and I'll say "But I don't know them. How is being presumptuous going to convince them otherwise?"
and they'll say "Do you value your employment here?"
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This insanity brought to you by Siliddar:
Complain to Verant about the bad CS. You dont have to go "you nerfed me, die plz k thx". Tell them about bad experiences you have had with GM's/guides. If you dont have enough to fill the letter, I got a million. Ask the boards, We've got plenty of GM horror stories. Address the issue of how they always believe that the customer is always lieing/wrong.
Say what you will, but VI has some of the best customer service out there. At least you get an answer, instead of automated directions to FAQs.
EA and Black & White, anyone?
I'd rather have an "I don't know" than a load of shit.
What does "legally sound" mean in context of your assignment--last I checked, unhappiness was the sole requirement to write a complaint letter.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
quote:
This one time, at Bloodsage camp:
How can your class require you to invent a problem and send a complaint letter to a company?What does "legally sound" mean in context of your assignment--last I checked, unhappiness was the sole requirement to write a complaint letter.
Legally sound as in, it's not some drivel about I hurt myself with coffee or outrageous... Also, we're not "inventing" problems truly, just finding them,
Also, Dem, there's more to the assignment than that. The letter, the response (hopefully) to the letter, and essays...etc...
quote:
From the book of Lashanna, chapter 3, verse 16:
Also, Dem, there's more to the assignment than that. The letter, the response (hopefully) to the letter, and essays...etc...
I figured as much. Was just poking fun. 
/shrug
Sounds a lot like school-sponsored activism, and that doesn't thrill me.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
quote:
Bloodsage wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Still seems kind of odd that you'll be writing a letter saying, "While I have no personal beef with your company or service, I have hearsay to the effect that you're screwing up, and have thus taken it upon myself to write a letter complaining about someone else's problem. . . ."/shrug
Sounds a lot like school-sponsored activism, and that doesn't thrill me.
I'm going to write a letter to YOU. Graaah
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
quote:
This one time, at Bloodsage camp:
You can't begin to imagine the bowel-tingling--ooh!--fear your threat inspires. My id has grabbed my superego as hostage/shield, and is demanding a million dollars, a fully-fueled Gulfstream jet, and visa to Lithuania. I cower in abject apathy.
"Dear Bloodsage-
It has come to my attention that you are too smart. This board has a maximum intellegence requirement, and you surpassed it. Speaking of such abstract terms confuse some of the younger members (OOC: I haven't read Freud, sorry. :P), including those in high school. You are causing such people as Black Mage to be hurt by your sharp words. I think that you should stupidize, or we will fine you.
Signed, [ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Lenlalron ]
Lenlalron S. Flameblaster."
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I would send this in reply to that:
Dear Mr.Sage,
Pay no attention to that fool, Lenlalron. He knows not of what he speaks, and he needs his shots.-- Mr. Mage
quote:
Black Mage has problems. Scary problems:
Dear Mr. Mage:
You suck. I hope a pox hits you. I hope that you get swallowed up in a pit of fire. I will dance on your early grave. And steal your stereo.With love,
Lenlalron.
[ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Lenlalron ]
quote:
Haha.
UBB > Lenny
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Black Mage said:
Haha.
UBB > Lenny
Random Quote generator > You
quote:Shit. You're right.
Lenlalron spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Random Quote generator > You
quote:
This one time, at Black Mage camp:
Shit. You're right.
This one wasn't random. I just like that quote header. :P
edit: English skill at -100! [ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Lenlalron ]
quote:Well...
So quoth Lenlalron:
That wasn't random. I just like that quote header. :P
Um...
ur mom si lame~~~~~
quote:Well...
Black Mage had this to say about (_|_):
[QUOTE]So quoth Lenlalron:
[qb]
That wasn't random. I just like that quote header. :P
Um...
ur mom si lame~~~~~[/QB][/QUOTE]
Your mother is fat!
quote:
Lenlalron got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Your mother is fat!
"Hi, is Eric there?"
"Not at the moment, who's calling?"
"BJ"
<<step father doesnt know anybody named BJ>>
"BJ.. from?
<<brief pause>>
"Capitol One Credit"
<<thought so>>
"I don't know when he'll be in, but I'll leave him a message"
meh
I have a policy. If they cant pronounce their last name right, they dont get to talk to em. Hell, they NEVER get to talk to em anyway. My grandma just p and hangs up on telemarketers. I do too when they call for them, or tell them my grandma isnt home or something. Its funny.
