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Topic: Holy mother of god Verant is going crazy. And I love them.
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 03-14-2002 06:16:23 AM
I... I think I just died and went to heaven.
Two more updates from Castersrealm:

Rumors from the Safehouse message boards are that as part of next weeks changes, all hell levels (with the exception of 54 and 59) will be removed from the game.
Since this is just rumor at the moment we can't provide any further details on how Sony may address their previous reasons for not being able to fix hell levels (i.e. it would cause all players who had finished those levels already to gain massive experience).

Wonderful news if this goes through for new players and old players wishing to make alts.

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And secondly:

More from the Test Server!
Perhaps one of the more exciting changes made to the game in the last 48 hours on Test is for players Level 10 or below.

According to players who have been enjoying life as a Gnome Paladin or Halfling Ranger, if you die while level 10 or below you now respawn at your bind point with all your gear.

That's right, no more corpses for players under Level 10! This should significantly help in reducing downtime or lost items due to corpse decay. Note: This is only on the Test Server currently.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 03-14-2002 06:17:44 AM
quote:
Azizza had this to say about (_|_):
all hell levels (with the exception of 54 and 59) will be removed from the game.

Heh..no.

There are no hell levels but 54 and 59.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 03-14-2002 06:20:02 AM
Tell that to my necro when he was in 45 or my paladin who is in 35. believe me this is great
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 03-14-2002 06:27:14 AM
That lvl 10 change is pretty spiffy, since honestly you aren't doing much at that time. And for the few true newbies left, it'll save them a lot of headaches so they can worry about learning the game first.
"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 03-14-2002 06:27:58 AM
Being someone who's never had a character higher than 10, I rather hope that second part goes live...
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 03-14-2002 06:44:33 AM
*twitchtwitchtwitch*
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Miandor
Pancake
posted 03-14-2002 06:50:11 AM
BS, keep 51-59 how they always were.
Miandor 56th High Elf Magician
Tulerin Hippyassassin 54th Wood Elf hippy rogue
Myriad Tholuxe Paells
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 03-14-2002 06:51:50 AM
quote:
Miandor impressed everyone with:
BS, keep 51-59 how they always were.

*violently pummels Miandor into a bloody pulp*

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 03-14-2002 06:52:29 AM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Miandor was all like:
BS, keep 51-59 how they always were.

Did you read what he posted?
He said that they are leaving 51-59 alone.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Miandor
Pancake
posted 03-14-2002 06:56:39 AM
quote:
Reynar had this to say about John Romero:
Did you read what he posted?
He said that they are leaving 51-59 alone.

I hope so....
I dont want to lvl to 60 in a gimp way if they make changes...

[ 03-14-2002: Message edited by: Miandor ]

Miandor 56th High Elf Magician
Tulerin Hippyassassin 54th Wood Elf hippy rogue
Myriad Tholuxe Paells
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 03-14-2002 07:00:25 AM
Gnomish Paladins? Halfling Rangers? Badass.
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 03-14-2002 07:05:03 AM
quote:
Reynar had this to say about pies:
Did you read what he posted?
He said that they are leaving 51-59 alone.

Actually, the post said all hell levels but 54 and 59 are going. 51-53 and 55-58 will not be hell levels.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 03-14-2002 07:16:54 AM
quote:
JooJooFlop wrote this stupid crap:
Actually, the post said all hell levels but 54 and 59 are going. 51-53 and 55-58 will not be hell levels.

They never were. Hense, there is no change.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Maradon!
posted 03-14-2002 07:20:58 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Reynar!
They never were. Hense, there is no change.

Hell level: Level that requires signifigantly more experience than the level after it.

So Reynar's right, the only post-50 hell levels are 54 and 59.

I am rather unexcited about these changes. Level 45 requires only about twice the experience of level 44, as opposed to level 51 which requires around four times as much experience as 50. Essentially these changes are rather minor.

[ 03-14-2002: Message edited by: Maradön? ]

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 03-14-2002 07:22:56 AM
However because they were working with a cubic expression to determine the XP curve any level that they upped the modifier for (which is EVERY level post 50) is a "hell level".

54 and 59 increased by .2 instead of .1 however. They're technically double hell.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Freschel Spindrift
Caucasian
posted 03-14-2002 07:23:49 AM
OMG they're blowing away THE VISION(tm)!
Who's that crazy kook that's destroying the world. It's Zorc (That's me) It's Zorc and Pals.
Bakura: Did you forget our anniversary, again? (laughter)
Zorc: Yes, I was busy destroying the world (laughter) Slaughtering millions. (Laughter)
Bakura: That's my Zorc.
The blood of the innocents will flow without end. His name is Zorc, and he's destroying the world.
Maradon!
posted 03-14-2002 07:25:36 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when Random Insanity Generator wrote:
However because they were working with a cubic expression to determine the XP curve any level that they upped the modifier for (which is EVERY level post 50) is a "hell level".

If Verant reduces the experience cost for ANY post 50 levels, I will personally saw off my own foot, bake it with garlic and a white wine sauce, and offer it up as sacrifice to Sraeps the God of Britney Spears Albums.

Redmage Darkrayver
Moron
posted 03-14-2002 07:25:47 AM
If they introduce the level 10 thingy, I'm definately gonna come back and start another character...Now to find a decent server...Might go back to The Rathe
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 03-14-2002 07:26:02 AM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
However because they were working with a cubic expression to determine the XP curve any level that they upped the modifier for (which is EVERY level post 50) is a "hell level".

54 and 59 increased by .2 instead of .1 however. They're technically double hell.


Depends what your definition of hell level is. "My" definition is when the level after the said hell level is 'easier'

In which case, ONLY lvl 54 and 59 are hell levels post 50, since both 55 and 60 are quicker.

51-53, 55-58, and 60 are not hell levels, they just require significantly more exp then the past levels 1-50.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Miandor
Pancake
posted 03-14-2002 07:28:01 AM
59 to be twice as hard...great.

Well at least I dont have to worry bout 54.

Miandor 56th High Elf Magician
Tulerin Hippyassassin 54th Wood Elf hippy rogue
Myriad Tholuxe Paells
Maradon!
posted 03-14-2002 07:42:45 AM
Here is a chart of experience points required for each level for a human warrior (other classes have the same chart, just up or down a bit):

Now, you tell me, where are the hell levels?

[ 03-14-2002: Message edited by: Maradön? ]

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 03-14-2002 07:49:10 AM
Again, per the formula that VI uses, any time they make a change to the "difficulty" modifier (which gets cubed in the equation) they've effectively introduced a hell level. Hell levels are when you break out of that nice "even" curve you have from 1 to 29 and start the spiking shit that you're showing. In this case it's 30, 35, 40, 45 and 51 through 59 with emphasis on 54 and 59. They modified the multiplier EVERY LEVEL post 50 instead of every 5 levels like they did 30-50.
* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 03-14-2002 07:50:44 AM
I think I'm going to cry....
Maradon!
posted 03-14-2002 07:51:06 AM
I'm not saying you're wrong RIG, I'm just saying there's no way in hell they're going to make any changes to post-50 hell levels.
Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 03-14-2002 08:27:42 AM
I agree with you. They're going to cheapass their way out and go with you definition which is total shit....

However theory says that I have enough excess XP in 30, 35, 40 and 45 that it should put a GOOD dent into 54 *IF* I keep my XP.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 03-14-2002 08:43:20 AM
quote:
Maradön? had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I'm not saying you're wrong RIG, I'm just saying there's no way in hell they're going to make any changes to post-50 hell levels.

Make a positive change that would affect what is now the majority of EQ players?

Impossible!

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 03-14-2002 02:59:53 PM
Fresch.. The Vision got blown away when Brad left.
Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Maradon!
posted 03-14-2002 03:03:48 PM
quote:
KaLourin DthBlayde stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Fresch.. The Vision got blown away when Brad left.

That's kinda true. Soulbinders, melee bind areas, etc. etc.

Nobody knows for sure if he's at fault, but if he is, the game is so much better off without him.

Taylen
Pancake
posted 03-14-2002 06:19:19 PM
So what happens to the extra experience I had to get for 30 and 35 and so far in 40 if that goes live?
"When correctly viewed, everything is lewd." - Tom Lehrer.
Sadomasochism: It's Fun!
Taylen Ashenbow
Rangers never run we mearly stratigically retreat.
Thats not a train thats a pull, my trains are always much bigger.
Skaw
posted 03-14-2002 06:34:45 PM

Comparison:

The redline is Halfling Warrior! The class/race combo with the least amount of EXP required

They get that bonus for being significantly weak, as a race.

[ 03-14-2002: Message edited by: Skaw ]

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 03-14-2002 07:13:42 PM
quote:
Skaw had this to say about Duck Tales:
They get that bonus for being significantly weak, as a race.

I thought they got it because Verant screwed up and gave them the bonus Humans were supposed to get.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 03-14-2002 07:16:06 PM
quote:
Skaw wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
The redline is Halfling Warrior! The class/race combo with the least amount of EXP required

5% isn't that big.

Addy
posted 03-14-2002 07:29:05 PM
/bonk Skaw

How to use Photoshop (or another image editor) by Skaw.

Skaw
posted 03-14-2002 07:39:28 PM
quote:
Adrecia stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
/bonk Skaw

How to use Photoshop (or another image editor) by Skaw.


Exactly.

It was a joke about the low exp requirements of Halflings. Geez guys.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 03-14-2002 07:42:52 PM
quote:
JooJooFlop had this to say about John Romero:
I thought they got it because Verant screwed up and gave them the bonus Humans were supposed to get.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 03-14-2002 07:46:48 PM
Hey, you silly hummies, don't whine! Us iksar have to pay for being uber, while human monks don't!
Ruvie's Alt
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
posted 03-14-2002 07:53:50 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Skaw wrote:

Comparison:

The redline is Halfling Warrior! The class/race combo with the least amount of EXP required

They get that bonus for being significantly weak, as a race.


<PurpleLine> I shall call him... Minime.

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