Mythic Entertainment is named as the defendant in this case filed on February 5th 11:50AM involving various anti-trust, copyright, and anti-competitive issues. BlackSnow Interactive (BSI) is a group of individuals that play, buy, and sell in various Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPG). Growing from only one person nearly two years ago, to seven full-time people, this group has successfully developed a market in which they are able to supply players with gaming currency, items, or characters at competitive prices. Mythic wants BSI to cease all sales immediately.
After entering the DAoC market, shortly after its release, BSI created a website and began listing their sales on various auction sites, such as Ebay. BSIs Director of Sales, Lee Caldwell, was quoted as saying, What it comes down to is, does a MMORPG player have rights to his time, or does Mythic own that players time? It is unfair of Mythic to stop those who wish to sell their items, currency or even their own accounts, which were created with their own time. Mythic, in my opinion, and hopefully the courts, does not have the copyright ownership to regulate what a player does with his or her own time or to determine how much that time is worth on the free market.
Caldwell goes on to say, Mythics attempt to stifle competition in their own game makes it possible for only full-time gamers to succeed in the game and most MMORPG players cant compete on that level. The person that plays just a few hours a week, cant put in the time required to build their character or collect the items needed to join others in the online battles. No one has stood up to any of these software giants, until now.
If you would like to take a look at the actual court document, please visit www.camelotexchange.com.
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Wheee!!!!!!! Have lawyer, will be dumbass. [ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]
Now, if the Erudites were white, and the barbarians black.. you'd see a lawsuit.
If being evil meant wearing a turban, you'd see a lawsuit.
But if you want to make a your living off somebody elses creation, And are willing to sue the company who created it to do so, I say you should get countersued, for being a weasel.
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http://gucomics.keenspace.com/d/20010213.html
Thank you drive through. **grins**
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Siliddar had this to say about Cuba:
Seriously.
The answer to all lifes questions can be found within the archives of GU.
How do online gamers get chicks, then? Answer that!
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Lenlalron had this to say about pies:
How do online gamers get chicks, then? Answer that!
Oh... and...
http://gucomics.keenspace.com/d/20010417.html [ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: Woody ]
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Lenlalron had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
How do online gamers get chicks, then? Answer that!
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Caanis Lupus wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Yup...Woody is the Guru who sits high on Mountain to bring us Wisdom and Funny.
YSE!
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Woody had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
http://gucomics.keenspace.com/d/20010210.html- and -
http://gucomics.keenspace.com/d/20010213.htmlThank you drive through. **grins**
Definately one(two) of my all time favorites!!
Hilarious.
It's the same "selling time" crap argument....
The only real problem Mythic has that Sony did not is that they said they would not actively go after folks in their EULA. While I still think the plaintiffs lose, it puts a crack in the door that Sony never had to worry about.
Some Ohio firm's Irvine CA office is handling it......
Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001
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Caanis Lupus thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Yup...Woody is the Guru who sits high on Mountain to bring us Wisdom and Funny.
**whistles**
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Woody had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Lenlalron had this to say about pies:
How do online gamers get chicks, then? Answer that!
http://gucomics.keenspace.com/d/20010322.htmlOh... and...
http://gucomics.keenspace.com/d/20010417.html
Pwned
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Woody had this to say about Cuba:
http://gucomics.keenspace.com/d/20010210.html- and -
http://gucomics.keenspace.com/d/20010213.htmlThank you drive through. **grins**
I LOVE THOSE!!! Thanks Woody.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Lenlalron wrote this stupid crap:
How do online gamers get chicks, then? Answer that!
Just an example.
"But officer, I wasn't being paid for sex! I was being paid for my time!"
Pathetic.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Does OP know you're stalking his sister?
Yes.
She's in Japan right now, though.
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Bloodsage stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I'm sure whores have tried that same angle in vain for millenia."But officer, I wasn't being paid for sex! I was being paid for my time!"
Pathetic.
DAMMIT! I WISH I HAD THOUGHT OF THAT EXCUSE LAST SA--
err... 
Good one, Bloodsage 
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Bloodsage had this to say about dark elf butts:
I'm sure whores have tried that same angle in vain for millenia."But officer, I wasn't being paid for sex! I was being paid for my time!"
Pathetic.
I can't recall where it occurred, but prostitutes were selling condoms for whatever price, and giving away sex for free. The city passed a law making it illegal to carry condoms in public or something stupid like that.
Sheesh, just legalize it, it is a victimless crime.
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Optimus Prime:
I see...and is he cool with it? I know I'd want someone to ask me permission before they started stalking my sister.
Main Entry: stalk
Function: verb
intransitive senses
1 : to pursue quarry or prey stealthily
2 : to walk stiffly or haughtily
So... I'm stalking her because I have a copy of the picture that she showed us and is now on EC faces?
Right...
Anyway, I think we'll just have to wait for OP to sign on. Should be soon.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Let's take things a tad more personally in the future, shall we?
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about (_|_):
Stalky McStalkStalk, that's what we call YOU!Let's take things a tad more personally in the future, shall we?
Heh, I learned to not be offended by you a good while ago...
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Bloodsage had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
<----- Look! This is me staying out of a potentially controversial subject!
hehe
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Kanid wrote this stupid crap:
I can't recall where it occurred, but prostitutes were selling condoms for whatever price, and giving away sex for free. The city passed a law making it illegal to carry condoms in public or something stupid like that.Sheesh, just legalize it, it is a victimless crime.
"Selling is legal, fucking is legal, so why isn't selling fucking legal?"
Never paid for sex directly myself, can't imagine ever wanting to, but I really don't see any reason to make it illegal other than trying to legislate morality.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Check out the big brain on Palador ChibiDragon!
BLACKSNOW INTERACTIVE SUES MYTHIC (DAOC) IN FEDERAL COURT FOR MMORPG PLAYER?S RIGHTSMythic Entertainment is named as the defendant in this case filed on February 5th 11:50AM involving various anti-trust, copyright, and anti-competitive issues. BlackSnow Interactive (BSI) is a group of individuals that play, buy, and sell in various Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPG). Growing from only one person nearly two years ago, to seven full-time people, this group has successfully developed a market in which they are able to supply players with gaming currency, items, or characters at competitive prices. Mythic wants BSI to cease all sales immediately.
After entering the DAoC market, shortly after its release, BSI created a website and began listing their sales on various auction sites, such as Ebay. BSI?s Director of Sales, Lee Caldwell, was quoted as saying, ?What it comes down to is, does a MMORPG player have rights to his time, or does Mythic own that player?s time? It is unfair of Mythic to stop those who wish to sell their items, currency or even their own accounts, which were created with their own time. Mythic, in my opinion, and hopefully the court?s, does not have the copyright ownership to regulate what a player does with his or her own time or to determine how much that time is worth on the free market.?
Caldwell goes on to say, ?Mythic?s attempt to stifle competition in their own game makes it possible for only full-time gamers to succeed in the game and most MMORPG players can?t compete on that level. The person that plays just a few hours a week, can?t put in the time required to build their character or collect the items needed to join others in the online battles. No one has stood up to any of these software giants, until now.?
If you would like to take a look at the actual court document, please visit www.camelotexchange.com.
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Wheee!!!!!!! Have lawyer, will be dumbass.
I really don't see how BSI even has an arguement. It was their time, true, but the characters and items and all, ultimately, are the property of Mythic since they are using their servers to play their bunch of data on. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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ArchAngel had this to say about Cuba:
I really don't see how BSI even has an arguement. It was their time, true, but the characters and items and all, ultimately, are the property of Mythic since they are using their servers to play their bunch of data on. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Bingo. This case will most likely be dismissed.
Besides... the customers don't really own the software anyway. When you buy the box with the software in it, you're only paying for the right to use it. Says so right in the End User Licence Agreement.
Eq set the legal precendent for this already... when Sony succesfully stopped E-Bay from doing this same thing. BSI does not have a leg to stand on here.
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Check out the big brain on Elethi!
"Selling is legal, fucking is legal, so why isn't selling fucking legal?"
Ever been to Nevada?
