But anyway, the whole Senior/Freshman seperation thing doesn't help one bit. :P
Of course the flip side was that junior and senior girls were often taken out by college guys who, pardon my lewd term here, were just looking for a young piece of ass that didn't know any better.
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What was the question/problem?
What's icky/illegal/not right about seniors dating freshmen?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage wrote:
I don't get it.
Predators... you know, shoulder cannon, spe.. never mind.
=/
It's not like the guys weren't underage, too.
Can't blame stuff like that on the evil males--I'll bet you'll find just as many freshman looking to cooperate as seniors looking to score.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Mortious had this to say about Captain Planet:
Predators... you know, shoulder cannon, spe.. never mind.
That's actually what I thought when I read your post.
But the others confused me. 
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Comrade_Snoota had this to say about Punky Brewster:
I think I was the only one who got it, Mort.=/
I did, too, but nobody got my joke... 
damn flyig disc thingy :P
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Bloodsage wrote this stupid crap:
How is that different than guys anywhere?It's not like the guys weren't underage, too.
Can't blame stuff like that on the evil males--I'll bet you'll find just as many freshman looking to cooperate as seniors looking to score.
I know. :P Hope was screwing some 19-year-old dude for awhile. The schools sepereated 9th graders from everyone else as a means to 'prevent' this sort of crap and it didn't do any good. Therefore, they are doo doo heads!
The teacher scurries away, carrying his suitcase, whispering, "I'm gonna have me some fun, I'm gonna have me some fun..."
I'm going to say two things here, and I'm sorry to those of you hereabouts who they don't apply to...but:
1. Teenagers are, by and large, stupid. Common fact all people with any classes on adolescent development will tell you is that adolescents and teenagers are looking for acceptance, beneficent attention, etc. They don't look for this from parents and family; they look for it amongst peers. That's why you see middle school kids and high school girls flocking to fads.
2. Teenagers have a psychological mentality of indestructability. They won't get hurt, they won't get pregnant, they won't get an STD, they won't get caught if they do drugs or get caught drinking.
So you have this freshman girl with these psychological needs, and this invincible mentality, and you have a guy finishing out his teenage years. Wiser, more experienced, and in fact a very good predator.
What's the difference between the senior and the freshman boy?? Chances are the freshman boy's on more even footing to the freshman girl experience-wise.
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Mortious thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
"Now class, today we'll learn about... IT'S IN THE TREES! Move! Move! Move!"The teacher scurries away, carrying his suitcase, whispering, "I'm gonna have me some fun, I'm gonna have me some fun..."
I, as a Predator junkie, am ashamed. I should've spotted him within a second... so I'm now going to beat my head against the wall, then watch Predator another four times.
Predator > Aliens
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Comrade_Snoota had this to say:
They need to hurry up and make the Aliens vs Predator movie they've been tossing around for years and years now.
/agree
However, the only way they'd be able to satisfy all the audience.. Predator and Alien lovers alike.. is to have a Marine beat them both. Unfortunate but true.
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Predator > Aliens
Preach it, brother!
It's one of those ideas they take down and bat around when they need to key up some interesting ideas.
There was long talk of a Jason vs Freddy Krueger movie, and to this day you'll find sites that insist that they've got a script written, or they're talking to directors and even some that insist the film is in production as we speak, and year after year they never come out.
Same thing with the AvP movie. They've bounced script ideas around, but they've mostly been dramatizations of the comic/novel stories that've been out. Or variants thereof. And just when interest is starting to fade, they'll mention it to a magazine or a newspaper to stir up interest again. Or the opposite occurs...a video game comes out featuring the premise and fans of the game say "damn why isn't there a movie based on this? that would kick ass." and when asked, the company with all the rights (can't remember if it's Paramount, Universal, or Columbia) says "Oh yeah we've been thinking about that for years! we're going to do it, soon as we're happy with things" and go on to spout Verant-like terms of "being faithful to the Vision" and all that kinda crap so long as anyone's interested. Then when the spotlight's off, they don't follow through, and the project skitters off into the darkness like the vuanted aliens, or turns on its cloaking device like the cunning predators.
Plus there's still a lot of Ripley loyalty in the Aliens franchise. They went so far as to write a role for Sigourney Weaver in Alien: Resurrection because they thought an Alien movie wouldn't sell without the character (even though at the time they claimed that they were "passing the torch" from Ripley to Wynona Ryder's android character).
Hell even the first couple of alien novels eventually incorporated Ripley in some form or another. Including those novels and the movies, Ripley's actually lived three separate times. Once as the original, once as the gengineered alien/human hybrid in Resurrection, and once as an android in the novels.
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/me is very wary of guys in high school who live in the nearby air force base
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Check out the big brain on Zephyer!
I did, too, but nobody got my joke...
I got it. That's the first thing I thought of when I read this thread, but you had allready made the joke. 
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Palador ChibiDragon wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I got it. That's the first thing I thought of when I read this thread, but you had allready made the joke.
Yeah, beat all of us too it.
Many guys in my highschool are preds, the sex wanting kind. One of my friends brothers actually did it in his bedroom as the rest of us played GTA3 yesterday.
) and she only had a tank top on and they were both sweaty. Then his mom said:Ack
Yes, there is going to be stupidity... this is why parents should teach their children better. Girls are perfectly capable of saying 'no' as long as they are taught young. Honest. Being a girl-person, I can say this pretty confidently.
I never appreciated my parent's attitude towards sex and its place in life until I contemplated trying to teach my own kids. My parents were of the firm belief that if you were old enough to ask the question, you were old enough to get the answer... I asked at five. By the time highschool came around, I could practically give a week long class on STDs and birth control. Long before I ever had sex I was buying birth control for friends.
Which is wrong in and of itself. But that's another arguement entirely.
There are two easy solutions to the older boy predator problem. 1. Raise your sons better. 2. Raise your daughters better. Kids who are expected to take responsibility for themselves in controlled situations as youngsters are much better at it later in uncontrolled situations.
(grrr... button... someone found the button...grrr)
What's next? Are we all going to prohibit people from using anything but crayons to write because some idiot might think that pounding a pen into a table through his **** would be fun?
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Kel stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
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Yes! That's one of the main reasons of why I said it didn't help!
I hate to put it this way, but if you don't realize these things happen, or if you do but simply fail to council your children on them, you are a failure as a parent and kinda deserve to have your daughter knocked up.
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Maradön? impressed everyone with:
Another example of parents insisting the state compensate for thier failure to give thier daughters "The Talk".I hate to put it this way, but if you don't realize these things happen, or if you do but simply fail to council your children on them, you are a failure as a parent and kinda deserve to have your daughter knocked up.
Damn Maradon, you beat me to it. Yes folks, your teenage daughter is only as naieve AS YOU MAKE HER!! Sit her down say "Hey, look, guys want sex. You don't want to do something just cuz he's cool, because 99% of the guys just don't give a rat's ass." And you don't do it once.. you do it many times, the same as everything else you warn them about.
Course that means that parents have to look at their children as quasi-adults and not the helpless mewling babies they've seen them as for 13+ years. (Hell some of us are still having that fight at 27...)
(Edit cuz misspelling babies as babes changes everything..) [ 01-26-2002: Message edited by: Radience ]
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Bloodsage wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I don't get it.What was the question/problem?
What's icky/illegal/not right about seniors dating freshmen?
Well, in WA, if you are more than 36 months older than the younger party that you are active with, and the youngest party is at least 14; It is considered statuatory rape. So if a freshman boy/girl is 14 and going out with a senior boy/girl who is 17+, it is illegal.
And I thought that junior and senior girls would have a tough time now that their bf's had graduated? One word: Villanova 
The thing with this is that its the invincibility thing in addition to its a popularity thing. Girl gets seen with older guy, older guy bangs her a couple times, +3 to popularity scale. Girl doesn't have a older bf, but a bf of the same age, +2 to popularity. Girl has no bf, but guys are chasing her, +1 to popularity scale. No bf, no dice.
I agree with Kel that girls need to get "The Talk", and also that they need it repeatedly, as things like that tend to be forgotten shortly after the first telling. Guys need to get their own variant of "The Talk", just as I did, so they themselves won't feel the need to become predators.(Not the kind that lop off people's heads for trophies mind you)
Placing regulations on this will only make it a sort of "forbidden fruit", much like teen drinking, smoking, and drug use. Kids are going to try to buck the system, not knowing that its there for their own protection.
And for those already giggling behind their hands, yes, I was NOT a rebel while in high school. I didn't drink, smoke, do any sort of drugs, etc. However, I WAS popular, athelete of the month a couple times, advisory rep, etc. That's not to say I was a complete boy scout, I did get into several fights with the goths around the school, despite the fact that I could be semi-grouped with them. And yes, I won most of the time.
For those of ya still in Middle/High school, try to keep an eye open for these guys, or don't become one yourself, or you're going to be in a lot of hot water.
-Azrael
My best friend, however, sleeps around a lot and she's younger than me.. I worry about her a lot, but nothing I can do. She has slept with over 20 guys, been pregnant 4 times that she knows of, and has been engaged 3 times.
I think another reason poeple have sex so much at such a young age is because of the idea of being in love. Just look at my friend. She lost her virginity at a YOUNG age. When we were 14, you was purposefully trying to become pregnant because she said she'd move in with her boyfriend and so on. Now, at 17, she's planning yet another wedding, two kids, and moving to another city when she hits her birthday.
Some people are just in love with the idea of being in love.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Robocop:
1. Teenagers are, by and large, stupid. Common fact all people with any classes on adolescent development will tell you is that adolescents and teenagers are looking for acceptance, beneficent attention, etc. They don't look for this from parents and family; they look for it amongst peers. That's why you see middle school kids and high school girls flocking to fads.
could you define what defintion of "peer" that you use here? do you mean by age, social status, academic status, maturity level, or something else?
