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Topic: Legolas is a chaeter!
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 01-16-2002 12:41:50 AM
You heard me!

He is a Dice fuger if I ever saw one!

Did he ever miss? No.

how many Crits did he get? ~20!

Cheater!!!

Veni, vidi, vici
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-16-2002 12:43:13 AM
Timeline. Everyone knows that Legolas has an aimbot.
Led
*kaboom*
posted 01-16-2002 12:46:17 AM
WALLHACK! WALLHACK!

omg such a CAMPER NOOB

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 01-16-2002 05:09:33 AM
omg hacking bs omgomgomroflll u noob leggolas getskill like me puny elf can't fight a blarog roglrogforlomhohmg


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 01-16-2002 06:01:29 AM
... he had one of them damn medieval AWPs, too, didn't he? RAT BASTARD.
Legonaire
Pancake
posted 01-16-2002 08:22:43 AM
quote:
... he had one of them damn medieval AWPs, too, didn't he? RAT BASTARD.

Waits patiently for the Rat King to take offense to that statement !!

If animals weren't supposed to be eaten, then why are they made out of meat ??
Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 01-16-2002 08:25:48 AM
quote:
Legonaire had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Waits patiently for the Rat King to take offense to that statement !!

If you mean Rodent King, he won't complain. I'm meaner than he is and I'll squish him like a leeetul bug.

Led
*kaboom*
posted 01-16-2002 02:56:50 PM
quote:
Bajah had this to say about Tron:
... he had one of them damn medieval AWPs, too, didn't he? RAT BASTARD.

bahahaha ^_^ that one sent me rolling

Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 01-16-2002 03:02:51 PM
quote:
Bajah had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
If you mean Rodent King, he won't complain. I'm meaner than he is and I'll squish him like a leeetul bug.

I want to stay out of this argument by saying that he DID mean the Rat King, thus; not me... But I WILL say that I wouldn't be afraid of Sauron's great and evil army if about twenty of their orc/goblin/burrito supreme soldiers were killed by an elf with a bow, and a ranger with a sword, a dwarf with an axe...and a bunch of hobbits...think about that.

My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-16-2002 03:08:02 PM
He stabbed one in the throat with an arrow... then pulled it out and shot it into the chest of the next orc only a half step away.

What's that ... like rolling 1 on every initiative and rolling two natural 20's in a row then cross referencing the crit hit/miss chart and rolling a "death" on each one?
</AD&D jibberish>

[ 01-16-2002: Message edited by: Woody ]

Woody Hearn - Cartoonist
GU Comics
Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-16-2002 03:09:05 PM
Whoops!
((clicked reply with quote instead of edit... teehee))

[ 01-16-2002: Message edited by: Woody ]

Woody Hearn - Cartoonist
GU Comics
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-16-2002 03:12:44 PM
or for those of us who like things to make sense...

it's like he rolled 20 four times.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 01-16-2002 03:14:52 PM
On the other hand the emperor's elite, the stormtroopers fail about one billion to hit rolls in the Star Wars saga ...
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Azeroth™
Want my opinion?
posted 01-16-2002 03:15:14 PM
*cough* AD&D nerds *cough* *cough*

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Rodent King
Stabbed in the Eye
posted 01-16-2002 03:16:02 PM
That's damn lucky; the luckiest I ever rolled was four out of four sixes with some D6...Saved my lictor's life so he could assault next turn.
My inner child is bigger than my outer adult.
Soldar
I'll take two of anything, please. To go.
posted 01-16-2002 03:18:12 PM
quote:
Azeroth wrote this stupid crap:
*cough* AD&D nerds *cough* *cough*

Over here, you're pretty much soaking in them.

I'm not one myself, but I don't mind the occaisional talk of it. I just find the D&D stuff interesting.

Kel
Pancake
posted 01-16-2002 04:31:36 PM
You're just jealous that his player has better dice-foo than you do.

And he'd have to roll to avoid grabbing the fletchings, then the arrow (shaft; thin wood) would just have to survive a crushing blow vs. flesh or bone (Roll for hit location)... completely doable.

And being the reason that one of my GMs no longer uses the 'Roll a 20 and I'll let you do it' cop-out, I can honestly say that I've seen odder things in games. (We now have to have an applicable skill, explain the world-view rational, give demonstrations of how a person could actually bend that way without hurting themselves, present research materials or real life experience as appropriate, review three sets of house rules and then roll a 20...)

Current game's most amusing move: our scout (theif) rode the giant spider that was trying to attack him up the temple wall to catch up with the rest of us on the balcony level... tumbling/acrobatics IS a useful skill...

Do you believe in fondue? You know you do.
If you look deep within your heart you will find... melted cheese.
Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-16-2002 05:28:21 PM
Legolas (thence forth referred as Legs) could easily NOT be a cheater.
:: An AD&D ex-DM's Analysis ::
LONG! (Expansion books such as 'Skills & Powers' and 'Combat & Tactics' not used as they made the results even more lopsided)


Examining the Stats:

Let's assume that Legs has a 19 DEXterity.
That's a roll of 18, +1 for being an Elf.
This would provide a +3 Reaction Adjustment (read initiative), +3 Missile Attack Adjustment (read Bow), and -4 Defense Adjustment.

Because he is a Ranger his STRength must be atleast a 13, but I would venture to guess that it's higher than we expect as he obviously has some Attack and Damage adjustments.

His CONstitution also has to be atleast a 14(ranger requirement) despite the -1 CON Elven disadvantage; but, I'm thinking it's higher than 14. I mean... he wasn't even affected by the snow EVEN with that thin ass leather armor on.

His WISdom must be atleast a 14 (again required to be a ranger); but since he joined this doomed group of his own volition, I would say it's no higher than that.

INTelligence, he didn't really say enough to give us a good clue as to this, but I'd say it one of the few average ability scores he has.

And then there is his CHaRisma. By AD&D standards this is nigh immeasurable. His Reaction Adjustment is astronimical; I mean... look how many women would LOVE to be his Henchmen ... er... henchwomen.


Elven Ranger Adjustments:

Well to start with, Elves get a +1 to hit with bows and longswords.

Any Ranger above Level 2, and we KNOW he has to be above level 2, can select a racial hatred. I think we can easily surmise the Legs HATES Orcs. Thus, his Ranger racial hatred allows him a +4 to all attack rolls(that's to hit and damage) versus Orc.


Weapons and Specialization:

I would say that his bow is atleast a Bow +1 because it's of Elven make. So that's +1 to hit, damage, and initiative rolls.

It seems obvious to me that Legs is Specialized with a bow. Duh! So that's {b]+1 to hit +2 to damage[/b], +2 to hit if the target is within 60 feet.

Because of the sheer number of attacks that Legs delivers we have to assume he pretty high damn level. But, well even AD&D doesn't solve for that many attacks per round.


The Orcs:

Well, if we use the 'Monstrous Compendium' to define these Orcs then we know they 1 Hit Die. That means 8 hit points (Monster HD are 8 sided).

The 'Monstrous Compendium' also says they should be awarded and AC of 6 for studded leather plus a shield. But most of those Orcs were wearing plain leather or hide with no shield. But we'll be kind and give them a 7 AC.


Adding up the Modifiers:

Iniative Modifiers:
-3(Dex) -1(Elven Bow)
-4 to initiative rolls

THAC0 Modifiers:
+3(Dex) +2(specialization, point blank range) +1(Elven Bow) +1(Elf with Bow) +4(Ranger Racial Hatred for Orcs)
+11 to hit AC 0

Damamge Modifiers:
+2(specialization) +1(Elven Bow) +1(Elf with Bow) +4(Ranger Racial Hatred for Orcs)
+8 to damage


The Results:

So... with a -4 to initiative rolls it will be exceedingly difficult for the orcs to get the first hit in on Legs.

So when Legs fights the Orcs, he's battling monsters with AC 7. With a +11 to hit, that means from level 2 on Legs will ONLY miss the Orcs if he rolls a Natural 1.

Now, considering the fact that orcs only have 1 HD(meaning only 8 hit points), and the fact that he will do atleast 8 points of damage due to his modifiers, Legs will kill the orcs with only 1 shot.

I'm not so sure Legs is cheating.

[ 01-16-2002: Message edited by: Woody ]

Woody Hearn - Cartoonist
GU Comics
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-16-2002 05:33:33 PM
as I said in the chat...

Legolas isn't cheating because LOTR ain't DnD!!!

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-16-2002 05:34:36 PM
You forget elves have a racial resistance toward cold, Woody. That explains mostly why he wasn't phased by the snow.

[ 01-16-2002: Message edited by: Lyinar ]


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-16-2002 05:34:44 PM
Hello... Aani... joke much?

It's all in good fun. Geez. **pokes**

[ 01-16-2002: Message edited by: Woody ]

Woody Hearn - Cartoonist
GU Comics
Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-16-2002 05:37:12 PM
quote:
Lyinar thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
You forget elves have a racial resistance toward cold, Woddy. That explains mostly why he wasn't phased by the snow.


Ack! You mean his Constitution could be as low as 14. WOW! Careful lest the Legolas faithful attack us.

**grins**

Edit: Durn typos.

[ 01-16-2002: Message edited by: Woody ]

Woody Hearn - Cartoonist
GU Comics
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-16-2002 05:40:07 PM
quote:
Woody had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Hello... Aani... joke much?

It's all in good fun. Geez. **pokes**



I never joke when it comes to Legolas

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 01-16-2002 05:40:26 PM
quote:
Woody had this to say about dark elf butts:

Long funny DnD post.


Wow ... and what do you do in your free time?

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-16-2002 05:40:57 PM
*chuckles*


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 01-16-2002 05:41:10 PM
<Lenlalron> He's cheating because he's using an AIMBOT
<Lenlalron> And someone with that ratio HAS to be cheating

That sums up my argument.

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-16-2002 05:42:49 PM
quote:
Tarquinn wrote this stupid crap:

Wow ... and what do you do in your free time?

Tarq ... it'd be worse if I remembered it all off the top of my head. I haven't played in over 7 years now. I had to dig out the books and look everything up. **laughs**

Woody Hearn - Cartoonist
GU Comics
Soldar
I'll take two of anything, please. To go.
posted 01-16-2002 05:43:22 PM
Now... Let's look at the number of arrows used here...

(I like guiding discussions. But then again, I don't really talk too much.)

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-16-2002 05:44:11 PM
I believe the whole conversation was...


<Aanile> he's not cheating because LOTRs ain't DnD =)
<Lenlalron> He's cheating because he's using an AIMBOT
<Lenlalron> And someone with that ratio HAS to be cheating
<Aanile> Len
<Lenlalron> I'm kidding
* Aanile slaps Lenlalron around a bit with a large trout
<Lenlalron> Ow!
* Aanile eats the trout

*giggles*

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 01-16-2002 05:44:11 PM
Oh, and he's a blatent wall hacker too!

...

I mean...

Well, look!

...

LOOK!



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Woody
Toast the Destroyer
posted 01-16-2002 05:46:16 PM
The Legolas Henchpeople are mad cause I called him Legs. **grins and hides**
Woody Hearn - Cartoonist
GU Comics
Mr. Duck
Likes to ____!
posted 01-16-2002 05:46:45 PM
it took till Aanile's post to figure out who everyone was talking about..i'm a little slow
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 01-16-2002 05:47:55 PM
'Least you didn't call him "Crazy Legs".

*provides all the rabid Legolas fans with hobbit pr0n*

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 01-16-2002 05:48:05 PM
quote:
Woody had this to say about Pirotess:
The Legolas Henchpeople are mad cause I called him Legs. **grins and hides**
Hahaha!


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Drysart
Pancake
posted 01-16-2002 07:05:56 PM
<--- Godmoder
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-17-2002 02:27:39 PM
He only gets to use his strength bonus to strike/damage with a bow if it's a Strength Bow (sort of like Odysseus' bow).

And I did remember that off the top of my head...danged dirty Jania...

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Ocyrrhoe Trazere
Bootylicious!!
posted 01-17-2002 02:34:39 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:

*provides all the rabid Legolas fans with hobbit pr0n*

Hobbits? Wheeeerrree? I love hobbits. ^___^

Leggyness is pretty, but I like the hobbits better. Yup. **Nodnod**.

"Come at me. Every inch of me will resist you."

Full sigpic image.
Liam - "Caitlin: You terrify me, but in a good way."

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-17-2002 02:44:42 PM
quote:
Woody had this to say about pies:
The Legolas Henchpeople are mad cause I called him Legs. **grins and hides**


I donno why... the elf has a fine set of them *melts like butter*

Miandor
Pancake
posted 01-17-2002 02:45:59 PM

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