What kinda bullshit is that?
thats the one glaring flaw i hate in the US
Being PC you even see it in new cartoons now ... every cartoon has at least one "disabled" kid one "black" kid one "asian" kid or if its and "animal" show they have the traits of these
and if they dont sure enough someone would bitch for it to happen
if Bugs Bunny was made today elmer fudd would be black, Yosemite sam would be a crazy Asian guy and Bugs Bunny would have a nephew in a wheelchair whogets into very cooky problems!
kiss my ass if you dont like the harshness, ludeness,honesty or comedic value of my post, if you cant deal with it you have some growing up to do
And you believe it?
It is held in thought
only by the understanding
of the Wind.
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Ryu Kamen had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
CNN?And you believe it?
corse not like its something that WONT and DOESNT happen. It happenes every day.
people trying too hard to be diverse
It is held in thought
only by the understanding
of the Wind.
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Lawgiver Cadga had this to say about Robocop:
corse not like its something that WONT and DOESNT happen. It happenes every day.people trying too hard to be diverse
I find it REALLY ironic that there's a cable channel for women,(Oxygen) and a channel for blacks.(BET) But If I were to start a channel for only white men, (showing nothing but The Man Show and other, similar shows.) I'd be called a racist, sexist rat! Not just a rat! 
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Rodent King impressed everyone with:
I find it REALLY ironic that there's a cable channel for women,(Oxygen) and a channel for blacks.(BET) But If I were to start a channel for only white men, (showing nothing but The Man Show and other, similar shows.) I'd be called a racist, sexist rat! Not just a rat!
exactly by default in america if a white male is called racist its hard to diprove
same with being a sexist ... i get the racist shit just about everday.
PLease dont anyone say he sport channels are the men only channels you will only look like a fucking retard : )
(there is actualy 3 woman only channels btw :P)
He just annoys me
Political correctness can kiss my fat ass.
I think that many of the ethnic groups (myself included) are getting tired of this political correctness shit. Creating history to preserve a false truth will be our downfall.
It's a thin line.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
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Soldar had this to say about John Romero:
They need to realize, that the people who did this, were all just people. Not white people, not black, not hispanic, they were just PEOPLE. If 3 black people did this, it should be 3 black people. If it was 3 asians, it should be 3 asians. Because it's 3 white people, it should be 3 white people.Political correctness can kiss my fat ass.
I think that many of the ethnic groups (myself included) are getting tired of this political correctness shit. Creating history to preserve a false truth will be our downfall.
I have never agreed with you more.
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"The symbolism is far more important than representing the actual people"
Stupidest. Bullshit. Ever.
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Lawgiver Cadga had this to say about dark elf butts:
welcome to america
everything has to have a reference to every ethnicity and race to be rightthats the one glaring flaw i hate in the US
Being PC you even see it in new cartoons now ... every cartoon has at least one "disabled" kid one "black" kid one "asian" kid or if its and "animal" show they have the traits of these
and if they dont sure enough someone would bitch for it to happen
if Bugs Bunny was made today elmer fudd would be black, Yosemite sam would be a crazy Asian guy and Bugs Bunny would have a nephew in a wheelchair whogets into very cooky problems!
kiss my ass if you dont like the harshness, ludeness,honesty or comedic value of my post, if you cant deal with it you have some growing up to do
I enjoy Looney Toons' Polical Incorectness. The one with Hitler is funny 
. The idian/japanese jokes were funny as well. Im not racist, and I grew up watching these cartoons. Dammit, in America, freedom is a 2 way street. Ive been called names for my ethnicity, and I could really give a damn less. Theyre just words. I have the right to do as I please, as much as the nazis. As long as no one is hurt in any way.
Im not defending racists, just saying they have as much freedom as anyone else, as long as no illegal activity takes place
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Lawgiver Cadga wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Yosemite sam would be a crazy Asian guy
*mental picture*
*dies laughing* xD
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We were all impressed when Ryu Kamen wrote:
CNN?And you believe it?
Well, considering CNN is generally so accurate that our own government is always monitoring it for up to date information...
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Comrade_Snoota had this to say about Robocop:
Well, considering CNN is generally so accurate that our own government is always monitoring it for up to date information...
<IRS Person> I'm sorry Miss Spears, but our records show that you are, in fact, dead.
<Britany> But I'm not dead, that was a hoax! I'm right here!
<IRS Person> No, that can't be allowed. The IRS is never wrong.
* IRS Person snaps their fingers, and several people with assult rifles walk into the room.*
<IRS Person> Boys, Miss Spears here says that she's not dead. Would you please fix this small oversight so that our records will be accurate?
<Britany> NOOOO!!!!!!!
* gunfire ensues *
It is held in thought
only by the understanding
of the Wind.
Changing it is a slap in the face to the people that were there that day. "Sorry, but the fact that you're white means that you can't be a hero. We contacted a consulting firm, and found someone better."
Ok, I agree with the PCness. BUT! If they are going to be PC, then they should add ONE of every ethnic person in the statue. One Aribic, one Asain, one Native American, one Caucasion, one African, one Hispanic... you get the point. Because if you want to make it all PC and have it represent the people who died in this, there was others beside whites, hispanic and black.
If not, then make the statue of the three guys who accually are in the picture.
If you want to be PC then be PC and honor everyone's ethnic background.. not just those three...
There is something being missed here, which is more important? Making those three firemen immortal heros for being part of a staged photograph, or making a monument that honors all firemen who died on 9/11?
I've little problem with the decision to include an ethnic mix in the monument instead of using a historical depiction. It is most likely in the best interest of the men in the photograph that their faces won't be on the monument anyways, especially if history teaches us anything. For example, earlier someone mentioned the raising of the US flag on Mt Sarabachi on Iwo Jima during WWII as a comparison. Not only was that image also staged, the first rising happening two days before the famous photo, but the men it protrayed almost univerisally had issues reguarding their new found fame, up to and including suicide.
Remember the purpose of this monument isn't to remember those three men, but to remind everyone who sees that statue of the ultimate sacrifice the members of the FDNY and others made on 9/11.
Let's say this. They do decide to fashion the images in the fashion of the men. Even if they inscribe their names, how many people are going to remember those people exactly when they're dead? And if they do, then for what? What act did they specifically do to stand out from the others?
I think that it should be symbolic. Because I doubt we will remember the people in the picture, but what it stands for.
Personally I dont care that they want to do it. But...
The three firefighters in the photo -- Dan McWilliams, George Johnson and Billy Eisengrein -- declined to comment.
Now if I was one of those guys, I'd be making sure my name didnt appear anywhere on that statue. Especially if I was one of them that was having my face changed for the sake of political correctness. Talk about an insult...
I'm not by any means racist, but I'd never allow myself to be shown as something Im not for the sake of appeasing some politicians. Fuck that.
Since when does raising a flag make someone a hero? I'd be severely pissed if the monument was to three weenies who raised a flag when they should have been working, rather than to the hundreds who gave their lives on September 11th.
As a monument representing all of the rescue crews, I've no problem at all with a little attempt to show diversity.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I think it is a bunch of Bullshit.
I am tired of all the PCness in this country. The people who raised the flag were white.. So the monument should show them as white. Simple as that. If they had been black then they should have been shown as black, etc, etc, etc.
What next? Are they going to start changing other monuments to reflect the same thing?
How about we change the monument for the flag raising of IwoJima. Make it a Black man, an asian, and a hispanic.
Bullshit..
Sorry, but the flag on Mt. Surabachi meant something, and the monument commemorates specific individuals.
The one in New York does not. Nor should it.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Pirotess:
Mark your calendars: I agree with Tyewa!Since when does raising a flag make someone a hero? I'd be severely pissed if the monument was to three weenies who raised a flag when they should have been working, rather than to the hundreds who gave their lives on September 11th.
As a monument representing all of the rescue crews, I've no problem at all with a little attempt to show diversity.
Then lets make 3.4% of the statue black and 4.5% of it hispanic, the actual statistics for minorities for the firemen in New York.
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We were all impressed when Azizza wrote:
Actually I dissagree here Bloodsage.
At that moment the people needed something. They needed a focus. That flag provided them with a symbol. And that was important. Just as important as any other in a time of war. It was us taking back what was ours.
I agree. There is a reason flags used to be carried during battles. A focus, a symbol, giving inner strength, needed during any hardship.
I still say the need to put in one of every enthnic group that died, if they really want to honour them.
These were PEOPLE, providing a symbol for inner strength, and the monument should be made of those people.
I still think George Carlin has the best idea for dealing with racial issues...make everyone breed with everyone else until we're all gray. 
*snickers*
Possibly those who worked there as well, and still work there, to clear the rubble...but that would get long.
Just a thought...if it's been posted earlier, I missed it.
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Aanile had this to say about (_|_):
I still say the need to put in one of every enthnic group that died, if they really want to honour them.
And that right there is why we are doomed to political correctness. Believe it or not you can honor the American people without having to acknowledge every ethnicity.
The monument is of 3 white people, how hard is that to accept without saying "where are all the the other ethnic groups?"
Personally, I think they should have a different monument, not of the 3 specific people, all it is doing is creating a lot of un-needed bickering.
Let's get one thing straight, the raising of that flag was not a historical event. It was staged, that makes it little more than a tear jerking media event. Some photographer with an eye on a Pulitzer went down there and made this photograph, that in and of itself makes the actual event not worth remembering in the annuals of history. Yet the image of the event is powerful, no matter how phony it is, so just like the Marines raising the flag on MT Surabachi (thanks Bloodsage for the correct spelling), the image deserves to be remembered.
With that in mind the people who commissoned the monument, and the people who sculpted it in all likelyhood decided to memorialize not the photograph but a more powerful message of ethnic and racial solidarity in the grief and horror of 9/11. So are the people responsable for the monument just being PC for fear of racial outcry, or are they just trying to convey a more powerful message than the simple raising of a flag?
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Reynar wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
And that right there is why we are doomed to political correctness. Believe it or not you can honor the American people without having to acknowledge every ethnicity.The monument is of 3 white people, how hard is that to accept without saying "where are all the the other ethnic groups?"
Personally, I think they should have a different monument, not of the 3 specific people, all it is doing is creating a lot of un-needed bickering.
*grins* Thank you! You got the point I was making!
*was hopen someone would pick up on it*
