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Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 12-12-2001 01:57:03 AM
quote:
December 12th, 12:00am
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* Patch Changes *

- Several changes to hair functionality: Expanded beard color choices for Erudite males, pushed back the camera a bit for human males when making hair selections (so they can see themselves) and fixed it so that the camera will no longer rotate around Erudites while in hair selection mode of character creation. Also fixed a bug with the left selection arrow sometimes not changing hair color.

- Fixed the "Entering Luclin" message bug. This was only an errant text message, it was not causing any crashes or keeping anyone out of the game.

- Fixed a bug where Vah Shir with an intelligence over a certain amount could not be created.

- Fixed a bug with faction-affecting items: They were giving a bonus to all factions instead of just the intended faction (nerf)

- Fixed a problem with arrows and quivers that would result in the person being logged out.

- Adjusted the cost of Combine Platemail to be inline with its stats and other armor available within game.(nerf)

- Made several gameplay changes to The Grey. A single group having the ability to simultaneously engage and prevail against 35+ experience-giving creatures is not in line with the desire for risk vs. reward and the promotion of balanced groups. (ANOTHER nerf)

- Removed some bad NPCs in Chardok.

- Tuned encounters in The Fungus Grove, Maiden's Eye, and Dawnshroud Peaks.(Nerf, nerf, nerf.)

- Clarified some quest dialog in Sanctus Seru.

- Tuned The Deep, also improved the variety of drops.

- Improved pathing in The Temple of Ssraeshza

- Improved pathing in Sanctus Seru

- Improved pathing in Echo Caverns(NERF! No, wait....)

- Added some newbie beastlord quests in the old world.

- Removed the "Lore" tag from the "Darkened Knight's Bracer"


=P

[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: Black Mage ]



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Squire Twitch
Pancake
posted 12-12-2001 02:01:29 AM
[QUOTE]Black Mage had this to say about John Romero:
- Made several gameplay changes to The Grey. A single group having the ability to simultaneously engage and prevail against 35+ experience-giving creatures is not in line with the desire for risk vs. reward and the promotion of balanced groups. [/qb](ANOTHER nerf)[qb]


Nerf?

umm... ok.

My parents just came back from a planet where the dominant lifeform had no bilateral symmetry, and all I got was this stupid F-Shirt
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-12-2001 02:02:49 AM
Well, I think I know a blacksmithing Paladin that will be happy that the price of the Combine armor is going up.
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 12-12-2001 02:05:38 AM
Actually, having seen what a level 60 wiz can do to a place like the Grey and Fungus Grove... it's scary....

Grouped with a 60 Mage, 60 Chanter, 60 Warrior, 58 Cleric and a 57 Ranger, I STILL did a full yellow in 53 in about 3.5 hours. And we were goofing off for most of it. Sitting in a group with a 60 Wiz, 2 60 Warriors, a 60 Bard and a 55 Mage in the Grey I did almost a whole yellow in 2 hours a few days ago. Bard pulled in 6 things and in less than 30 seconds the Wizard had it killed by AE spells.

This is a good thing because it needed to be done, but there goes all my free XP..... Makes me glad I got the 12/24 scimy outta the grey before this happened. My warrior will be happy.

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Miandor
Pancake
posted 12-12-2001 03:40:35 AM
They nerfed thegrey because the mobs had very low Magic resistance and aoe groups were taking advantage(they didnt want casters to lvl faster then melee I guess. )

That was BEFORE this patch...maybe this nerf changed the patch back? hehe

<-------happy with getting 1 blue an hour in Fungus Grove....now if that place wasnt so packed...

Miandor 56th High Elf Magician
Tulerin Hippyassassin 54th Wood Elf hippy rogue
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Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 12-12-2001 05:45:44 AM
You can read a wizy thread about what happened with the grey here:

http://pub23.ezboard.com/fgraffeswizardcompilationfrm1.showMessageRa nge?topicID=9922.topic&start=1&stop=20

Sounds like most casters are just feeling like shit yet again...like they did with velious.

It's a shame that it seems like verant doesnt want people to play anything aside from a warrior rogue or cleric.

[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: Reynar ]

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JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 12-12-2001 06:09:19 AM
quote:
Reynar wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
It's a shame that it seems like verant doesnt want people to play anything aside from a warrior rogue or cleric.

Monks are still good.

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Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 12-12-2001 06:13:44 AM
quote:
JooJooFlop had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Monks are still good.
That recent FD failing-more-nerf continues to haunt me, and make me grow more excedingly mad at VI.


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 12-12-2001 06:35:14 AM
quote:
JooJooFlop wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Monks are still good.

As long as they leave in some rudamentary ability to FD pull yea.

VI has admitted that FD pulling was 'not'an intentional design of the monk class though. Only reason they didnt outright remove it is because they probably believed to many people would cancel their accounts.

Instead, it seems like they have been slowly making it more useless over a long period of time.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 12-12-2001 07:27:58 AM
quote:
- Several changes to hair functionality: Expanded beard color choices for Erudite males, pushed back the camera a bit for human males when making hair selections (so they can see themselves) and fixed it so that the camera will no longer rotate around Erudites while in hair selection mode of character creation. Also fixed a bug with the left selection arrow sometimes not changing hair color.

So does this mean I can change my beard color now? Or is it still busted with Half Elves and other Elven type peoples?

Mightion Defensor
posted 12-12-2001 08:02:27 AM
quote:
Palador ChibiDragon had this to say about dark elf butts:
Well, I think I know a blacksmithing Paladin that will be happy that the price of the Combine armor is going up.

Damn straight, even though I haven't done much smithing for others, lately, aside from the large visible suit I did for Banditt's twink Vah Shir warrior... I did get a skillup to 198, though.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 12-12-2001 08:58:13 AM
Would be cool to see that "nerf" in the real patch message.
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 12-12-2001 09:03:45 AM
I am stupid and I smell like an elephant's butt.

[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: Drysart ]

Mightion Defensor
posted 12-12-2001 09:05:04 AM
quote:
Koska Kintaro had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I was wondering when Original Flavor Verant would poke it's ugly head through all these newfangled ideas.

Sure didn't take long, did it?


Neither did you jumping in.

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 12-12-2001 09:09:06 AM
hmm mos tof them nerfs i see are just bugfixes

oversensitive crybabys..

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 12-12-2001 09:41:03 AM
quote:
Mightion Defensor had this to say about dark elf butts:
Neither did you jumping in.

LOL, it's funny cause it's true.

Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 12-12-2001 09:44:34 AM
quote:
Mightion Defensor had this to say about Tron:
Neither did you jumping in.

I'm just commenting on the situation. I'm not allowed to contribute anymore.

Drysart
Pancake
posted 12-12-2001 09:47:40 AM
quote:
Koska Kintaro had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I'm just commenting on the situation. I'm not allowed to contribute anymore.

STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD

Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 12-12-2001 09:56:14 AM
Whatever you say boss, I'll just take my idiocy elsewhere

[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: Drysart ]

Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 12-12-2001 10:05:34 AM
See that circle there? See history running along the circle?

That's right folks, history is repeating!

Kanid
BANNED
posted 12-12-2001 10:08:24 AM
When 1 group of 6 is taking on 35+ experience giving mobs at a time, this is exploiting the situation and asking for a nerf.

If players would stop exploiting things, they wouldn't be nerfed so much.

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Pancake
posted 12-12-2001 10:12:39 AM
I happened to like the nerf....

It most likely just doubled the value of the sword I got from the Grey. Reports that I'm seeing currently from my server indicate that the Grey is now like West Wastes.

Beep. Beep. Beep... Ohh... I think my porridge is done.
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Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 12-12-2001 11:23:28 AM
quote:
Kanid impressed everyone with:
When 1 group of 6 is taking on 35+ experience giving mobs at a time, this is exploiting the situation and asking for a nerf.

If players would stop exploiting things, they wouldn't be nerfed so much.


Killing mobs with programmed low resistance is exploting?

Harsh

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Old Hickory
Pancake
posted 12-12-2001 11:34:32 AM
Them: Why did you quit EQ?
Me: Lather, rinse, repeat....
Them: What about Shadows of Luclin?
Me: Lather, rinse repeat...with better eye candy.


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[ 12-12-2001: Message edited by: Old Hickory ]

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One man with courage makes a majority.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-12-2001 02:58:16 PM
This is kust proof that people will will whine about anything.
There was an obvious problem with the zone. VI fixed it. Now people are complaining about not being able to get a free ride anymore.
What idiots. If you are in it just to level and get Phat Lewt then leave the game. We don't want your kind. Most of us are here to Adventure and have fun. That means doing more than sitting in one place for hours on end killing the smae thing.
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-12-2001 02:58:59 PM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about Captain Planet:
STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD

Drysart you are my Hero.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Troodon
Technology Luddite
posted 12-12-2001 07:32:03 PM
quote:
Black Mage wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
[QUOTE][qb]December 12th, 12:00am
------------------------------

* Patch Changes *

- Several changes to hair functionality: Expanded beard color choices for Erudite males, pushed back the camera a bit for human males when making hair selections (so they can see themselves) and fixed it so that the camera will no longer rotate around Erudites while in hair selection mode of character creation. Also fixed a bug with the left selection arrow sometimes not changing hair color.

- Fixed the "Entering Luclin" message bug. This was only an errant text message, it was not causing any crashes or keeping anyone out of the game.

- Fixed a bug where Vah Shir with an intelligence over a certain amount could not be created.

- Fixed a bug with faction-affecting items: They were giving a bonus to all factions instead of just the intended faction (nerf)

- Fixed a problem with arrows and quivers that would result in the person being logged out.

- Adjusted the cost of Combine Platemail to be inline with its stats and other armor available within game.(nerf)

- Made several gameplay changes to The Grey. A single group having the ability to simultaneously engage and prevail against 35+ experience-giving creatures is not in line with the desire for risk vs. reward and the promotion of balanced groups. (ANOTHER nerf)

- Removed some bad NPCs in Chardok.

- Tuned encounters in The Fungus Grove, Maiden's Eye, and Dawnshroud Peaks.(Nerf, nerf, nerf.)

- Clarified some quest dialog in Sanctus Seru.

- Tuned The Deep, also improved the variety of drops.

- Improved pathing in The Temple of Ssraeshza

- Improved pathing in Sanctus Seru

- Improved pathing in Echo Caverns(NERF! No, wait....)

- Added some newbie beastlord quests in the old world.

- Removed the "Lore" tag from the "Darkened Knight's Bracer"


=P[/QB][/QUOTE]

Um, I keep seeing people treating "nerf" like it's a four letter word. (OK I know it actually is, I'm talknig figuratively, you know what I mean). Have you ever thought that parts of this game are SUPPOSED TO BE difficult? It kind of defeats the purpose of faction if it's too easy to raise. Combine Platemail isn't SUPPOSED TO BE cheap. The better it is, the more expensive it's supposed to be. The Grey is the second hardest zone on Luclin, it's NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY. And the encounters that were tuned were too easy. If there's no challenge to the game, what's the point of playing?! Whenever Verant fixes something that is easier that it should be, it's not necessarily a bad thing, you know.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-12-2001 07:51:39 PM
quote:
Azizza wrote this stupid crap:
This is kust proof that people will will whine about anything.
There was an obvious problem with the zone. VI fixed it. Now people are complaining about not being able to get a free ride anymore.
What idiots. If you are in it just to level and get Phat Lewt then leave the game. We don't want your kind. Most of us are here to Adventure and have fun. That means doing more than sitting in one place for hours on end killing the smae thing.


Dang can't edit. I just wan tto point out that I am refering to the Wizzy forum and not here.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Abbikat
Tastes best with pudding
posted 12-13-2001 03:05:57 AM
quote:
Koska Kintaro had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
I'm just commenting on the situation. I'm not allowed to contribute anymore.

and the winner of the 'splitting-hairs' award goes too..........................

MARADON!!

his prize:




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