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Topic: The greatest Video-Game showdowns...?
Josef
Smooth Operator
posted 12-04-2001 01:25:05 PM
Which was it? When did you play a game through to the end and feel your heart pounding in your chest, or even better, the tears welling in your eyes, knowing that you, the Hero, were now confronting the final opponent of the story... the last battle, the archnemesis you'd hunted/followed/loved for so very long? What was the greatest dramatic showdown you've ever encountered?

For me, it's easy...
Suikoden II: When Genkaku's grandson (the hero) turned down the chance to rule the new empire that he'd fought to create, and walked away from his kingdom, alone, to return to the mountainside path where he'd sworn he'd meet his childhood friend, Jowy Atriedes, the former Highland King, should they ever be separated, where they then fought at sunset to eliminate the final vestiges of the Highland Kingdom, and where Jowy hoped he could absolve himself of his sins by dying at the hands of his only friend in the world.

Runner Up:
Chrono Trigger:
When Frog confronted Magus at the cape in 12000 BC, telling his friends to stand back and let him face down the man who'd cursed him one-on-one. Again, at sunset. All the best showdowns happen near a cliffside at sunset, it seems.

Aaron (the good one)
posted 12-04-2001 01:27:50 PM
CT team vs Lavos

Runner Up...Breath of Fire 1 vs Tyr

Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
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Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 12-04-2001 01:30:28 PM
I cried so much when they buried Old Yeller. He was a good dog, damn it...

What?



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Maelarr
Pancake
posted 12-04-2001 01:34:40 PM
ahh yes chrono trigger was awesome

but my favorite was when the dark elf made the naked man put some clothes on
ehehe
actually well lemme see the games i've played
Baldurs gate, final battle sucked, Sarevok was a pussy
Chrono trigger, i agree the frog thing was cool
also another one, in CT, when you took on magus himself the first time i liked that
lessee, aaand thats all the showdowns i've thought of really
oh in Baldurd gate when you have to kill Tranzig i can just imagine what the poor guy really said

<party of several fully armored individuals walks into tranzigs posh inn quarters carrying magic weapons in varying degrees of painfulness and size>
Tranzig"What the hell, who are you people?!"
Party begins to from around him, armored people in front, the archer and the mage stand back.
"WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE LEAVE ME ALONE
Suddenly one of them talks to him saying he's gonna die blagh blagh blagh, Then all 3 warriors slash him and the archer launches a magic arrow and the mage casts maggic missile.
Tranzig is slain like you wouldnt believe


All Empires Fall, You just have to know where to push- Me
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Dave
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posted 12-04-2001 01:47:49 PM
Homeworld has a very good story line, I allmost cried at the end.
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Pancake
posted 12-04-2001 01:53:04 PM
The first fight with Zio in PSIV. Also the final fight with the Profound Darkness.

The final fight sequence in FFIV. Also the fight with Edge's parrents in the same.

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I don't give a damn.
posted 12-04-2001 01:56:35 PM
Chrono Trigger - First encounter with Magus
Baldur's Gate II - The battle in hell with Irenicus
Throne of Bhaal - Final battle. The Emelyssan fight just rocked
Kennatsu
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posted 12-04-2001 02:05:13 PM
Street Fighter 1: the battle against Sagat, the reigning champion.

Street Fighter 2: The Battle against M. Bison

sorry... no other street fighter series has given me that feeling....

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 12-04-2001 02:44:54 PM
From Final Fantasy VII, Cloud and co. versus the JENOVA spawn in the City of the Ancients.
I don't know what it was about Aeris' death that always struck me. But after it happened, I was honestly determined to beat Sephiroth

The final conflict with Lavos in Chrono Trigger is up there, though only if Marle is in the party. "This is Doan's and Leene's, Crono's and mine, everyone's... and I mean everyone's world!"

The battle with Unknown in Tekken Tag Tournament is one of my favorites. It isn't emotional or anything, but damn, whatta fight!

[EDIT] Whoops.
[EDIT 2] Forgot to mention this one. Although it isn't actually a battle, I always get misty-eyed at the end of FFVI, when Locke saves Celes. I swear to god, that music is the audial embodiment of heroism.

[ 12-04-2001: Message edited by: Sentow ]

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 12-04-2001 02:50:04 PM
quote:
Sentow thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
From Final Fantasy VII, Cloud and co. versus the JENOVA spawn in the City of the Ancients.
I don't know what it was about Aeris' death that always struck me. But after it happened, I was honestly determined to beat Sephiroth

Ditto...When I Omnislashed Sephiroth for the final kill, I was laughing maniacally...you know, that sort of loud, insane, neighbor-scaring laughter?

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Peach
Good intentions? Or *bad* intentions?
posted 12-04-2001 02:52:26 PM
Showdowns? Hmm.. Final Fantasy VIII had an amazing fight at the end with Ultamica.

Chrono Trigger also had a great final fight.

As far as memorable parts: There are only 2 times I can remember crying at a video game.

First was when playing Chrono Trigger, and everyone is going back to their times, and Luca realizes that in the Future Robo wont exist. *wipes her eyes*

The other was when Areith died in FFVII. I wasn't playing, just watching. But man, that one sucked the breath right out of my chest.

Josef
Smooth Operator
posted 12-04-2001 02:58:52 PM
quote:
Sentow had this to say about (_|_):
From Final Fantasy VII, Cloud and co. versus the JENOVA spawn in the City of the Ancients.
I don't know what it was about Aeris' death that always struck me. But after it happened, I was honestly determined to beat Sephiroth

The final conflict with Lavos in Chrono Trigger is up there, though only if Marle is in the party. "This is Doan's and Leene's, Crono's and mine, everyone's... and I mean everyone's world!"

[EDIT] Whoops.
[EDIT 2] Forgot to mention this one. Although it isn't actually a battle, I always get misty-eyed at the end of FFVI, when Locke saves Celes. I swear to god, that music is the audial embodiment of heroism.


Fine, -fine- choices there...
The battle with Jenova immediately after Aeris died was incredibly moving... it's so immediate after she's been killed, I was sitting there pounding the buttons to destroy Jenova while screaming "YOU BASTARD!!!!" at the screen, and the music is arranged to fit this; it's playing Aeris' dirge all the while.

The final conflict in CT was okay in my mind, unlike you, I thought it was better if you had Magus with you at the time... "This is the end for you. Your future ends -now-."

Regarding the music in FFVI when Locke saved Celes at the end- the genius of it still moves me... they start playing Celes' theme, the "Oh my hero" bit from the opera, and suddenly Locke's hero theme comes in, in PERFECT FUCKING HARMONY AND COUNTERPOINT along with Celes... it's the only time in the game they do it, and it's why Nobuo Uematsu will always be one of my idols.

RE: Streetfighter, mentioned above:
The most showdown-like feeling I got from any SF was in Alpha 3, where the battle takes place in a thunderstorm-scorched plain, and where the comp-controlled M.Bison made no apologies about being cheesy... it could use the full-screen Psycho Crusher move whenever it darn well pleased. This wasn't supposed to be a fight against another opponent, this was supposed to be a fight against a BOSS.

Josef
Smooth Operator
posted 12-04-2001 03:04:00 PM
quote:
Peachis stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Showdowns? Hmm.. Final Fantasy VIII had an amazing fight at the end with Ultamica.

Chrono Trigger also had a great final fight.

As far as memorable parts: There are only 2 times I can remember crying at a video game.

First was when playing Chrono Trigger, and everyone is going back to their times, and Luca realizes that in the Future Robo wont exist. *wipes her eyes*

The other was when Areith died in FFVII. I wasn't playing, just watching. But man, that one sucked the breath right out of my chest.



Tear-jerking scenes that come to mind:
Celes throwing herself off a cliff to kill herself in FFVI.

And most recently...
When Vivi watched all the black mages on the airship get slain and thrown over the edge, and saw their eyes go dark as they plummetted away, then later stared hopelessly at one of the dead mage's hats, caught on the airship rail... the direction of that CG segment is something I'll remember forever as the way story in games -should- be done.

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 12-04-2001 03:07:19 PM
quote:
Zephyer had this to say about Robocop:
Ditto...When I Omnislashed Sephiroth for the final kill, I was laughing maniacally...you know, that sort of loud, insane, neighbor-scaring laughter?

I did the same thing. Though the scene where I felt really vindicated was in Cloud's true flashback. Sephiroth impales him, lifts him up, holds him over the Mako pit. Then Cloud pushes himself back onto the ground, pulls the sword out, and throws Sephiroth in. Holy crap!

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
The Unholy
Pancake
posted 12-04-2001 05:21:42 PM
Mine would be when I beat Metroid, man I miss that game.
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Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 12-04-2001 05:43:43 PM
LOTD: Vs. the final boss. I killed him on the last turn possible with purple dragon with Haschel.
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nem-x
posted 12-04-2001 05:50:17 PM
Chrono Cross - Vs the guy with the lightsabre, just because it was a close fight down to the last person. The music was cool too. And against that one knight on that island because it was a good fight too down to a one on one and I won because of one spell in my favor.

Metal Gear Solid 2 - because swords are too cool

Ruvie's Alt
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
posted 12-04-2001 05:59:41 PM
Gauntlet Legends: Warriors vs. Skorne.

4 warriors, all 4 different colors, all level 99, all with max stats.

Skorne. Last stage.

Red warrior (me) wins with 10HP left.

I turned a lot of heads at the arcade when I cheered.

Darius!
Pancake
posted 12-04-2001 06:05:03 PM
quote:
Zephyer had this to say about Cuba:
Ditto...When I Omnislashed Sephiroth for the final kill, I was laughing maniacally...you know, that sort of loud, insane, neighbor-scaring laughter?

/me killed all final forms of Jenova and Sephiroth with one spell/blow for ol' Seph.

Anyways, best showdown waaaaaas...
CT: Everyone v. Magus, first fight .

Led
*kaboom*
posted 12-04-2001 06:06:24 PM
Xenogears:

When they land the Yggdrasil on top of Id to try and save Bart.

The music was incredible, as Id just gently raised the Yg right off of him (not even touching it either, nice effect) says "Dropping a warship on me is cheating, take it back!" and tosses it right on top of the Brigandier.

That entire scene had me in goosebumps o_O

Lots of other memorable scenes, but you folks already snagged the great ones ^_^

Kolak
Pancake
posted 12-04-2001 06:12:49 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Josef!
Fine, -fine- choices there...
The battle with Jenova immediately after Aeris died was incredibly moving... it's so immediate after she's been killed, I was sitting there pounding the buttons to destroy Jenova while screaming "YOU BASTARD!!!!" at the screen, and the music is arranged to fit this; it's playing Aeris' dirge all the while.

me too...luckily i had the water ring (or was it something else?) from one of the paths, + comet and a murasame. best strategy is attack like crazy with cloud, when jenova's outta MP, revive everyone and from there, there's no way to lose.

my favorites:
the jenova battles from FFVII
i'd have a bigger list if i could find that damn FF7 Disc2+3

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Pancake
posted 12-04-2001 06:58:58 PM
Hmm...the good ones. I've been a gamer for a long time now, but I'll try to scrape together what I can.

For one, there was my first fight with Demogorgon in Watcher's Keep. I knew it was going to be rough, but I didn't know it was going to be that rough. I nailed him with everything I had and it wasn't enough. I mistimed a few things and he just tore me to shreds. The second time I forgot that Aerie and my Archer were still wearing boots of speed, so they outdistanced the tanks and tripped the spawn. Man, that was a nasty scene, I was throwing heals and magic and firing bow shots into the fray and slamming potions, and it was just a pain in the ass. I won, though.

Then there was the fight with Sendai, the drow Bhaalspawn. As you know if you've fought her, she has that statue bit going on with plenty of guards charging up your ass each time you drop one. My first go-round on that one, I was running all over the place trying to stop her and getting Viconia and Jan to watch my back, and it was unusually nasty because in the end, the only people who didn't get Held for the whole fight were Aerie and my archer. Luckily, I managed to pull a win out on that one...barely. I didn't even take losses.

The first time I took on Dark Falz in Hard Mode was also utterly nerve-wracking. I was doing it with a RAmar carrying a Shot-type weapon. I forget what the special on it was, though. But the range sucked, the damage sucked, I could only hit him during the brief times he wasn't invulnerable, and I had to be in the right position to land my shots, and the third hit came out slow so that may not even connect at all.

So I was running around, dodging like a crazy thing, trying hard not to be in the wrong place when the Big Arm Swipe O' Doom came down and hoping I had enough technique points to keep patching myself together after the unavoidable Grantz blast. I think it took me fifteen or so minutes of running and dodging and shooting and cursing and sweating to finally drop him and gather up my sweet, sweet loot.

The last fight that really gave me a massive rush, though, is when I was fighting Vol Opt with my HUnewearl (who usually carries a gun). This is the first time I'd ever fought him with an honest character, and I normally faced him with a multi-target weapon (such as the Shot series), so I had to face down Vol Opt with just my gun, my Fluids, and my reflexes. When the music started and the controller came down and Vol Opt showed up in the computer screen, my heart sped up. I could do it. Triple tap the controller, hit the totem with another few shots, spin and fire at the screens with Vol Opt in them. Not a problem.

Then I hit his second form. I knew it was coming, but let me tell you, Vol Opt II knows how to make an entrance. This gigantic mechanical monster lowers down from the ceiling and the tracker eye focuses on you. Not your character, you. And then the cinematic ends and that monster rotates to track you and it's on. I spent most of that fight running in circles dodging the missiles, the piston hammers that would have shaken the floor if my TV didn't suck, missiles, the stone beam that would have meant the end of me if it connected, every now and then turning towards him to snap off a triple-shot combo to weaken him. Bit by bit I chipped down his life, eventually breaking off some weapon systems from that monster.

I think it was something like...geez, twenty minutes later when that monstrosity finally went down in flames. I gathered up my prizes and staggered into the teleporter, then saved and quit. My hands were shaking, my heart was racing...that was a rush I hadn't gotten from gaming in a while.

One from the "payback's a bitch" pile: it was me against another guy in Team Fortress Classic. I don't remember the map, the one with the flag at the bottom and you start at the top...anyway, down by the flag, setting up a turret, when a Heavy Weapons Guy pastes me. I respawn and come out, knowing he'll go for the flag. I prime an EMP grenade, and sure enough, there he is. I let fly with the grenade, it drops straight down, goes off right behind him and sets off all his ammo. Gibs, baby.

pLaY 2 kRuSh!
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 12-04-2001 07:04:54 PM
Hmmm.

Losing wingmen in the final battles of Wing Commander III really sucked. That game had the added factor of, "Holy shit! That really is Amber Lynn!"

X-Wing and Tie Fighter both had awesome plots that drew me in and made the battles quite emotional. It doesn't help that I fly for a living, so I hate hearing people getting shot up on the radio. IRL, though, no one screams into their microphone as they go down. X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter lacked the integrated storyline that made the other two rock.


Oh, I almost forgot: Mechwarrior really drew me in, too.

[ 12-04-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]

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Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 12-04-2001 07:06:21 PM
Just about everything in CT.

I love CT. I swear by CT.

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