Buuut, Black & White. This is a GREAT concept, but, it is a sucky game IMO.
1) The control is funky and difficult
2) It takes FOREVER for your creature to learn
3) (and the biggest one) There doesn't seem to be anything to do! I just sit around, watching stuff. There's nothing to do! IT'S BORING!
All in All = Great concept, sucky game
It gets a 3 on the OP scale o' games!
NHL 2002 All in All = GREAT GAME! GREAT CONCEPT! GREAT EVERYTHING!
It gets a 10 on the OP scale o' games!
Its a WONDERFUL idea, but it just doesnt fit well in a computer game.
People who enjoy sports games tend not to like the kind of long-term commitment involved in some role-playing games. They like their fun in short bursts, with fast action, and a sense of winning or losing. Black and White is focused in the exact opposite direction. Accomplishments are hard to discern, but when they happen, it's a reward you treasure. It has a degree of realism which a lot of people don't expect, and some don't want, from their video games.
It's amazing what a person can learn by listening, isn't it?
To me, though, it gets boring to just sit there and watch something for hours with no visible progress being made.
*shrug*
And it might just be the game, too. Im sure if I gave it the time I would have fun. But when I only have a few hours to play a game, id like to get somethin out of it before I quit, or be able to make visible progress. not just see a creature that might have gotten better at somethin, or whatnot.
Fal
It's lots of fun to depopulate an entire village with fireball and lightning bolts, though. And I also managed to bust up some buildings with giant rocks.
Needless to say, my citadel is blood red and covered with giant spikes...
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Ford Prefect had this to say about Optimus Prime:
I'm more of a strategy person myself. My reflexes are far too slow for first-person shooters, and the last sports game I liked was NBA Jam. I played Starcraft long after a lot of people forgot about it, took the time for Final Fantasy 7, and when playing Baldur's Gate 2 (which I finally got less than a month ago, played for a week, then set aside because I was spending too much time glued to the computer) I abandoned a full day's work to backtrack so I could do it better. Twice. And I'm only up to chapter 5. If I had time to play Black & White, I would probably enjoy it.
Ive beaten BG1 twice, BG2 4 times, and the XPack twice.
They are fun games. 
Im not the best at first person shooters, but that isnt all that is "action"
RPGs are more my type of game, though. Mecha said it best: B&W is a excellent toy.
Its like one of those Tamagotchi things I think it would make an EXCELLENT game for a laptop when you are takin a long trip. Just not somethin I wanna sit in my room and do for 8 hours...
though...i did sit on my ass for 25 hours to get jboots in eq, heh
Keep in mind I'm not expressing an opinion about the game itself, since I haven't played it, just my opinion of what type of game it seems to be. Sims require even more patience than RPGs in some cases. I'm a fan of Sim games myself, especially the ones Maxis put out, like SimCity, SimEarth, and SomTower. Takes a lot of work to balance out the factors to cause the result you want. If B&W is that type of game, I might get it to try it out.
*shrug* its not a BAD game. just too damn long to get any bit of a result.
Fal
I'll say this much about it.
Yes, the game is long. It requires patience, which I have little of. =/
But the game is fun. The creatures are a BLAST. I was very proud of my creature as he caught on to how I was training him very quickly, becoming very good in a short amount of time. They do require quite a bit of attention, I had to smack the shit out of him a couple times for eating a villager. But I'm happy with him thus far, and I haven't left the first island yet.
The villages themselves are nice, I just wish the villagers weren't always so demanding. "WE NEED OFFSPRING! We need food! We need more wood!" Fine, get it yourself, lazy bastards! [ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Khyron ]
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Ford Prefect had this to say about Robocop:
the last sports game I liked was NBA Jam.
I aggree with you their, that game was fun, one of the only 4 sports games I like, nba jam, Mutant legue hocky Megaman Soccer and (forgot name) dodge ball (its realy cool, you play dodge ball and the contestants range from gundamns, to evas, to Ultraman, to giant alains, I had the rom a while back
And I loved black and white, you just need to balance boring with fun, such as throwing rocks at the three sailors, or beating to death builders as they ogf to work on scofolding, just repeatly pick up and drop said scafolding
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
i didnt see any mention of B&W bein an RPG
You didn't? Well I did. Maybe I misinterpreted this, but:
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Ford Prefect had this to say about Pirotess:
People who enjoy sports games tend not to like the kind of long-term commitment involved in some role-playing games. They like their fun in short bursts, with fast action, and a sense of winning or losing. Black and White is focused in the exact opposite direction.
Maybe he didn't directly state that B&W was an RPG, but he kind of implied it. Maybe I just took it out of context. [ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Troodon ]
Although those were pretty damn cool, the game got tedious way too quickly. /sigh
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
But, my favourite games are the ones I can jump into, play for like, 15-20-30 minutes and have a total blast (NHL 2002, Half-Life mods)
I don't really see A LOT of fun in games that require extreme amounts of attention.
Just played a new game too, Max Payne!
This game was pretty darn fun! But, it needs a First Person mode!
All in All = GREAT Concept, GOOD Game
It gets a 7 on the OP scale of games!
Bunnies aren't cute like everybody suposes. The got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses. And what's with all the carrots? What do they need such good eye sight for any way? Bunnies, Bunnies, it must be Bunnies!! -anya
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Khyron had this to say about Optimus Prime:
themselves are nice, I just wish the villagers weren't always so demanding. "WE NEED OFFSPRING! We need food! We need more wood!" Fine, get it yourself, lazy bastards!
And that is why I eventually got sick of the game and gave it up before I pitched my monitor out the window. Those damn whiny needy little ingrate shits. I showed 'em who's boss by snatching up their firstborn and sacrificing it, then using the prayer power I got to drop a fireball on their house and pitching random people out to sea, and while they're wailing for mercy and crying at the tragedy and wondering how they can stem the tide of my holy wrath raining down from the heavens, I drop a rock on them and pick of the survivors with lightning bolts and feed the corpses to my giant man-eating Death Cow.
I usually don't get very many complaints after that.
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
To me, though, it gets boring to just sit there and watch something for hours with no visible progress being made.*shrug*
And it might just be the game, too. Im sure if I gave it the time I would have fun. But when I only have a few hours to play a game, id like to get somethin out of it before I quit, or be able to make visible progress. not just see a creature that might have gotten better at somethin, or whatnot.
Fal
Fal
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Cuba:
Maybe ill load it up again just to be an evil bastard and kill everyone.Fal
Bah, that game takes almost as much effort to be evil as it does to be good. [ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: Star Collective ]
