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Topic: Is it sexist to not hit a woman simply because she is a woman?
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-07-2001 05:15:00 PM
This came up in IRC a moment ago, and I'd like to get a little more feedback on it.

Of for the love of all that is good and decent PLEASE respect the opinions of all that may post, no matter how horribly wrong you think they are.

BTW, I think it is.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 11-07-2001 05:17:00 PM
Yes it is sexist in the strictest meaning of the term. But being sexist about certain things is not necessarily a bad thing.
Cap'n Elethi
I'm too sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt...
posted 11-07-2001 05:18:00 PM
Is it sexist? I think so. You're changing your reaction (Or action) because of her sex. Thats pretty much my deffination of sexist.

Would I do it? No. I wouldn't hit a girl. Shaking is fine, but no hitting.

Elethi Rian, A Man Of Many Talents
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 11-07-2001 05:20:00 PM
I try not to hit girls, but I do shake quite a bit. I am large, I must shake things smaller than myself!

*shakes Illanae!*

Suddar Williams
SUDAR WILAMS
posted 11-07-2001 05:21:00 PM
my opinion probably wouldn't be the most valued here because I wouldn't really hit a man either. Yes, I think it is, but I still wouldn't do it.
Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 11-07-2001 05:22:00 PM
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 11-07-2001 05:22:00 PM
depends on how offended the woman takes it. Personaly, I don't mind if a guy hits on me.. I accually find it flattering. But, like all things.. there is a line. Just a matter of knowing were it is..
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-07-2001 05:24:00 PM
I guess I should have replaced "sexist" with "wrong".
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 11-07-2001 05:24:00 PM
I must shake women smaller than me and noogie men smaller than me!

*shakes Aanile and noogies Suddar!*

Lazzay
omg mack attack :(
posted 11-07-2001 05:24:00 PM
*krushes Parce!
one two three fo let me see that tootsie roll
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 11-07-2001 05:25:00 PM
quote:
Aanile wrote this stupid crap:
depends on how offended the woman takes it. Personaly, I don't mind if a guy hits on me.. I accually find it flattering. But, like all things.. there is a line. Just a matter of knowing were it is..

I thought it read hit ON at first, too, but he means HIT.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 11-07-2001 05:26:00 PM
*has been noogied*

*blinks*

Er.. since when was a ground hog, goffer thing larger then.. a cougar?

Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 11-07-2001 05:26:00 PM
Kloie thwaps Parcelan with her pointy stick!
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-07-2001 05:29:00 PM
quote:
Kloie had this to say about pies:
Kloie thwaps Parcelan with her pointy stick!

The pointy bit is going to waste with a simple thwap.

You gotta poke people with a pointy stick, otherwise you might as well just use an ordinary stick.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 11-07-2001 05:32:00 PM
HO HO HO! SMALL PERSON!

*grabs Kloie by the arms and SHAKES her gratuitously!*

Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 11-07-2001 05:33:00 PM
Kloie shuts her eyes and screams as loud and as high-pitched as she can!
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 11-07-2001 05:34:00 PM
Ho ho ho! Lazzy nearly krushed me last time...but my KRUSHABILITY is greater!

*KRUSHES Lazzy!*

Ozimander
$$$$$$$$$$$
posted 11-07-2001 05:39:00 PM
I wouldn't hit a girl, thought I have. Same with guys. Now that I think of it, it's been a while since I have.

Ozius

Kanid
BANNED
posted 11-07-2001 05:46:00 PM
quote:
JooJooFlop had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
I guess I should have replaced "sexist" with "wrong".

Aanile, he said "hit" not "hit on" hehe

In the strictest sense of the word, yes, it is sexist. But being sexist, especially in this case, is not a bad thing.

Is it wrong to not hit a woman? No it isn't wrong, men really shouldn't hit women on a general basis. HOWEVER, don't allow harm to come to you or those you love just because of a woman either.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 11-07-2001 05:48:00 PM
quote:
Kanid had this to say about dark elf butts:
Aanile, he said "hit" not "hit on" hehe

In the strictest sense of the word, yes, it is sexist. But being sexist, especially in this case, is not a bad thing.

Is it wrong to not hit a woman? No it isn't wrong, men really shouldn't hit women on a general basis. HOWEVER, don't allow harm to come to you or those you love just because of a woman either.



heh Dan cleared that out to bleah... (I R duMB)

accually hitting someone is kinda like a felony or something.. that and grounds to be beaten back

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-07-2001 05:59:00 PM
quote:
Kanid impressed everyone with:
But being sexist is not a bad thing.

Oh, so it's a good thing then? Jebus man, I know I should respect your opinion and all but that's a dangerous thing to say. And quite frankly it pisses me off. It's that good ol' days bullshit that gives perfectly open-minded men like me a bad name.

I'm sorry. I'm just not very good at taking things horribly out of context. But I really should get some practice in once in a while, it's the only way I'll get better.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 11-07-2001 06:01:00 PM
As a woman, I don't think that being sexist is necessarily a bad thing. If you want me to elaborate I will.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 11-07-2001 06:01:00 PM
I would never, EVER, hit a woman. EVER.

Period.

And, if I saw ANY man hit ANY woman for ANY reason, I'd send him to the hospital by any means necessary.

Rule: Men do not hit women.

Period.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-07-2001 06:03:00 PM
quote:
Illanae had this to say about Robocop:
As a woman, I don't think that being sexist is necessarily a bad thing. If you want me to elaborate I will.

Please do, it's the only way I'll learn.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 11-07-2001 06:03:00 PM
Well considering that 65% of my TKD class is composed of women I beat on women just about on a daily basis. Well I try that is. Most of them are really good LOL.

outside of that though. Well if I was attacked yes I would. Otherwise I would not.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 11-07-2001 06:14:00 PM
It's not so much, "sexist," as, "completely ridiculous."
Honestly. Say a woman attacked you. I don't mean she slaps you across the face once. I mean she attacks you viciously with no signs of stopping.
I hope nobody here would refrain from defending themselves "because she's a woman."
Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Ragabash
Pancake
posted 11-07-2001 06:15:00 PM
Its wrong to hit a woman...technically its also wrong to hit a man. As to which is more socially acceptable, I think you know. Is it wrong because of sexism? Technically yes, socially no.

You need to specify if you mean technically or socially for me to answer.

Feed my hungry soul.
Kanid
BANNED
posted 11-07-2001 06:17:00 PM
sexist adj : discriminatory on the basis of sex n : a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women

From that definition, I'd say no, don't be sexist. However, there is more to it than just that. ANY treatment of a woman differently because of her sex is being sexist.

I wouldn't strike a woman because she is a woman. I would open a door for a woman. I would stand while the woman is being seated. There are many ways I would treat a woman different than a man simply BECAUSE she is a woman.

If she took offsense at my actions, I would appreciate being notified of the offense first, before taking my head off for trying to treat her like a lady.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 11-07-2001 06:18:00 PM
Okay I shall.

Men and women are different. I love being a woman, and I love both sexes. I am not a feminist, and I do not think that women are downtrodded in today's society. I think that it is absolutely wonderful when a man opens doors for me, pulls out my chair, speaks respectfully around me, etc.

That to me is the good side of sexism. Being treated like a lady, and respected because I am a lady.

The bad side of sexism is the old patriarchal view that women are only good for making babies and cleaning house. Feminism has its good points, it gave us the right to vote, and we are viewed more as equals in society when it comes to the working world. To me however, sexism is easily reversable. Femi-Nazis get on my nerves. The whole "man hating women's club" thing.

In my opinion, both sexes have their strengths and their weaknesses. One sex is not better than the other. They are better at different things, yes.

For instance, I personally couldn't see myself voting for a female President. That is sexist of me, because I feel that men are best suited for that job. I don't apologise for it either, I suppose I am old-fashioned that way. I wouldn't want to see women on the front lines of battle. There are many reasons for them not to be there, I approve of them serving in the military, just not in combat positions. My reasons for that would make this post too long, so I won't expound on it.

So, sexisim in small doses is a good thing. Moderation in all things. Being an extremist is a bad thing.

Bloodcookie
Pancake
posted 11-07-2001 06:19:00 PM
Basically, I think it is wrong to assault anyone, unless in self defense. If they hit first, however, I see nothing wrong with pulverizing them, regardless of sex.

""...destructive analysis of the familiar is the only method of approach to an understanding of fundamentally different modes of expression." -Edward Sapir, Language
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-07-2001 06:21:00 PM
I'm speaking socially here. Of course it's wrong to do harm to others without provication, but I'm asking if you personally feel it is worse to hit a woman than a man for any reason.
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 11-07-2001 06:21:00 PM
I don't consider it wrong to hit any person in self-defense, or defending someone else.

If a woman attacks me or a friend of mine unprovoked, you bet I am going to defend myself. Same with a man.

Bloodcookie
Pancake
posted 11-07-2001 06:25:00 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and JooJooFlop was all like:
I'm speaking socially here. Of course it's wrong to do harm to others without provication, but I'm asking if you personally feel it is worse to hit a woman than a man for any reason.

I thought I implied this in my original post, but no, I do not feel that it is worse to hit a woman than a man.


""...destructive analysis of the familiar is the only method of approach to an understanding of fundamentally different modes of expression." -Edward Sapir, Language
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-07-2001 06:28:00 PM
quote:
Bloodcookie had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
I thought I implied this in my original post, but no, I do not feel that it is worse to hit a woman than a man.

Heh, I was trying to respond to Ragabash without specificly addressing him. But a whole bunch of you responded while I was typing.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Lazzay
omg mack attack :(
posted 11-07-2001 06:28:00 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Pirotess:
Ho ho ho! Lazzy nearly krushed me last time...but my KRUSHABILITY is greater!

*KRUSHES Lazzy!*


ONO! *is krushed* eep :\

one two three fo let me see that tootsie roll
Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 11-07-2001 06:37:00 PM
does poking count ? i like poking people in the head if they hit me

IMO poking is far worse than hitting because its WAY up there on the annoyance scale

(most of the people who try to get in a fight with me hit like a small child anyways)

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 11-07-2001 06:39:00 PM
It dosent matter to me what sex someone is, if they do something worthy of getting smacked around, they will get smacked around.

IMO, anything less is hypocrisy.

Veni, vidi, vici
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 11-07-2001 06:51:00 PM
I don't see any reason it is more wrong to hit a woman than hit a man, with equality and all...I agree that certain sexes are better at certain things, but it does not provide seperate rights.
Kanid
BANNED
posted 11-07-2001 06:55:00 PM
Maybe if more men treated women like ladies, more women would start acting as such.

Just a thought.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 11-07-2001 07:04:00 PM
quote:
Kanid wrote this stupid crap:
Maybe if more men treated women like ladies, more women would start acting as such.

Just a thought.


I agree.

If more men treated their women with respect and paid attention to them as women, they would most assuredly appreciate it.

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