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Waisztarroz
I love democracy
posted 10-03-2001 08:59:00 PM
I don't want to sound like a grammar Nazi, but I just wanted to go over a few basic things people here frequently miss that get me and probably other grammar Nazis a little upset about. =D

Its Vs It's

  • Its is posessive. You use it when you are describing what something has. EX:The bear was mad when its cub bit it, causing it to bleed a good deal.
  • It's is a contraction. The combination of it and is, to be exact. Use this when you want to state what "It is." EX:It's a lovely day for a killing spree.

Your VS You're

  • Your is posessive. A second person word used to describe something posessed by someone. EX:Your stench of death is horrendous, Mortious, and we all wish you'd use deodorant.
  • You're is a contraction. A second person contraction of you and are, precisely. This is used when you are saying what someone is. EX:You're the worst person I have ever met, and I wish you dead.

Hope this helps all of you. It just really gets on my nerves to see those four used incorrectly, so I set out to fix it some. Thanks for your time.

[ 10-03-2001: Message edited by: WaisztarrozBarrimas ]

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Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 10-03-2001 09:01:00 PM
quote:
WaisztarrozBarrimas had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
It just really gets on my nerves to see these four...
That's, 'Those'.


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Waisztarroz
I love democracy
posted 10-03-2001 09:03:00 PM
quote:
Black Wizard had this to say about Cuba:
[QUOTE]WaisztarrozBarrimas had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
[qb]It just really gets on my nerves to see these four...

That's, 'Those'.[/QB][/QUOTE]

Oops, indeed it is. That never happened.

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Resident grammar whore.
Warning, flames imminent!
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 10-03-2001 09:21:00 PM
Sorry, Waisz, you've been outdone long, long ago.

Kanid
BANNED
posted 10-03-2001 09:25:00 PM
Those are easy. So are they're, their and there.
"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 10-03-2001 09:55:00 PM
YOUR A BIG DUMMY
ITS NOT A BIG DEAL

hi im a monkey we have no grammer here in CANDYLAND

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
MadCat
Pancake
posted 10-04-2001 02:42:00 AM
*yuAk* .. grammar nazi's

I get to be exempt from all these trivial rules.. my native language isn't English so there *hah*

"Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and bitch-slap that motherfucker upside the head."

--
madcat@ghostfield.com

Wyndi
Pancake
posted 10-04-2001 04:37:00 AM
Effect and Affect:

Effect- The power to achieve a result, The basic or general meaning, ie: What is the effect of that spell?

Affect-To influence, ie: How does this affect me?

This is one that really bothers me, along with some other words that sound the same but have different meanings when spelled differently. I know its splitting hairs, but I'm currently in a college English Comp class and we are working on grammar. But if we are gonna be grammar Nazis, lets go all out here. :b

Wyndi
Taxi
(not my first or highest toon,just my current favorite)
Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 10-04-2001 11:21:00 AM
English is my third language but it still annoys me no end
Katjya
Kelveron's Kitten
posted 10-04-2001 11:29:00 AM
/grins and nods.

Although after seeing the things my ex-in-game-husband used to write, I've learned that sometimes it's just easier to ignore it and move on.

/shudder

Man, that guy has ATTROCIOUS grammar! (And constantly does the apostrophe for plural words. That one drives me bonkers.)

Katjya Sylvertongue
Young Shadowknight and Proud Owner of her own (_|_)
Tarissa Treerunner
Mid-life Crisis Druid of House Avendur
Suddar Williams
SUDAR WILAMS
posted 10-04-2001 11:32:00 AM
quote:
Wyndi had this to say about Duck Tales:
lets

??!!!???!?!??!!!??

diadem
eet bugz
posted 10-04-2001 01:28:00 PM
da. me go! me go!

is vs are
is one, are many. dat it. git it?

I vs Me
If dere many people in da sentence, den cut out da udder people. for example.
Yesterday, Innoruuk killed my family, my cat and me. Dis would change to Yesterday, Innoruuk killed me. when trying ta see if it would be I or me.

Dat mean if you say Yesterday, Innoruuk killed my family, my cat and I, den da grammer whores eat your cropse. Dat bad.

Me smratum!


Oh, an udder ting. When telling uh story, it is a common mistake to either switch between first, second, and terd person, or past and present tence, it gud to stay consistant.

Da err.. .. (looks at angry mob) commahs.. da.... he.. me gud wid comas.. if u in quotes and hab comma at da end, u put da coma aftawords like dis "Please don't eet me," said the troll in fear.

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: diadem ]

play da best song in da world or me eet your soul
Sora
Domo Arigato
posted 10-04-2001 01:39:00 PM
Gr4/\/\/\/\4r 5u><or5.
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 10-04-2001 02:41:00 PM
Disclaimer: humor with a moral.

The problem with posting a grammar thread is that it's a lot like tying a cord to your scrotum with the label, "Pull here." You're just asking complete strangers to bust your balls.

Your first sentence, for example, begins well enough, but trails off into a quagmire of poor usage and ends with the utterly unnecessary "about." Note that, if you must include the word, you should rephrase the clause along the lines of, "about which other grammar Nazis and I get a little upset." While one may get a little overzealous when rephrasing to avoid ending with a preposition--Churchill is reputed to have answered a question about the propriety of such endings with, "That is exactly the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put!"--the rule is generally sound.

Second, your inconsistent abbreviation of "versus" (the standard for which is "vs.") leaves you helpless prey to more evolved grammar Nazis, should any be hunting in the vicinity.

Finally, the comical clause, "so I set out to fix it some," simply begs for lectures from more sophisticated devotees of grammar National Socialism. First, as above, the word is unnecessary. Second, which only makes the lectures more tempting, you are open to the philosophical question of how, exactly, one fixes a problem "some." It smacks of "mostly dead," or "a little pregnant." One might reduce the scope of the problem. One may even hope to lessen the incidence of grammar violations. Should one wish to end with a flourish of daring vocabluary, one might even endeavor to ameliorate the sitution.

The above was humor. I'm rarely a grammar Nazi except to grammar Nazis. But grammar Nazis, like all beasts of prey, must be on guard not only against other predators, but against more aggressive, experienced hunters of their own species.

{edit: style}

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 10-04-2001 02:44:00 PM
Aloud vs. Allowed

It's weird why people get these fookered in the first place, but let's review anyway.

Aloud - To speak; loudly. Ex. He read his report aloud.

Allowed - Permitted to. Ex. I am only allowed to go across the street.

Doofuses

Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 10-04-2001 02:46:00 PM
THERE VS. THEIR

There - Used to indicate a place. Ex: He is over there.

Their - Used to indicate a posession of a certain thing. Ex: It is their picnic.

i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Avylen
Pull my finger!!
posted 10-04-2001 02:49:00 PM
Hey, I got a question, when do you use affect as opposed to effect, I never ever get this right.
"When people see something as beautiful, other things become ugly. When people see somethings as good, other things become bad. So is the way of life."
Waisztarroz
I love democracy
posted 10-04-2001 02:50:00 PM
Nice one, Bloodsage, that was pretty funny. Okay, I am not a grammar Nazi, but apostrophes are so basic that it drives me up a wall when people somehow cannot understand basic usage. I am still just a Sophomore in High School; I have much to learn.
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Resident grammar whore.
Warning, flames imminent!
Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 10-04-2001 02:51:00 PM
quote:
Avylen had this to say about John Romero:
Hey, I got a question, when do you use affect as opposed to effect, I never ever get this right.


Effect - Used to describe a certain change. Ex: It effected the forest.

Affect - Used to describe a certain emotion feeling. Ex: He was very affectionate to her.

I might have gotten that wrong, sue me.

i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 10-04-2001 02:52:00 PM
Homonym vs. Patronym

Homonym: two words that sound alike, but which are spelled differently and have different meanings.

Patronym: a name derived from that of the father, often through the use of a suffix.

Just wanted to be sure everyone was clear on these.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Waisztarroz
I love democracy
posted 10-04-2001 02:52:00 PM
quote:
Avylen had this to say about Tron:
Hey, I got a question, when do you use affect as opposed to effect, I never ever get this right.

You present a good question. Effect is a noun; affect is a verb. I hope this helps.

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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 10-04-2001 02:55:00 PM
quote:
Avylen had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Hey, I got a question, when do you use affect as opposed to effect, I never ever get this right.

An easier way than remembering the meanings, which always seem too similar to me anyway, is to remember the part of speech.

Affect is a verb. Something affects something else.

Effect is a noun. Affecting something produces an effect.

Hope that helps.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Wyndi
Pancake
posted 10-04-2001 02:56:00 PM
yeah yeah yeah...I know, I missed lets...it should have been let's....but I posted before 7 am my time...guess I should learn not to do that...the brain is not fully functional at that time of the morning.

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Wyndi ]

Wyndi
Taxi
(not my first or highest toon,just my current favorite)
Waisztarroz
I love democracy
posted 10-04-2001 02:56:00 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
An easier way than remembering the meanings, which always seem too similar to me anyway, is to remember the part of speech.

Affect is a verb. Something affects something else.

Effect is a noun. Affecting something produces an effect.

Hope that helps.


Please see the post above your own, doofus.

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: WaisztarrozBarrimas ]

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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 10-04-2001 02:58:00 PM
quote:
WaisztarrozBarrimas had this to say about Captain Planet:
Nice one, Bloodsage, that was pretty funny. Okay, I am not a grammar Nazi, but apostrophes are so basic that it drives me up a wall when people somehow cannot understand basic usage. I am still just a Sophomore in High School; I have much to learn.


I really didn't mean to pick on you; it was only a joke.

You didn't come across as one of the obnoxious grammar Nazis at all, but they're out there nonetheless.

Sorry if it seemed I was picking on you.

{Edit: It wasn't there when I posted, doofus. }

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Waisztarroz
I love democracy
posted 10-04-2001 03:00:00 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about Pirotess:

I really didn't mean to pick on you; it was only a joke.

You didn't come across as one of the obnoxious grammar Nazis at all, but they're out there nonetheless.

Sorry if it seemed I was picking on you.


You detected sarcasm that didn't exist. I lacked the highly vital smiley, though. I thought your post was pretty funny and didn't take it seriously.

Yes, that's right, hot live sex!
There's a raptor behind you.
Resident grammar whore.
Warning, flames imminent!
Freschel Spindrift
Caucasian
posted 10-04-2001 04:43:00 PM
One thing that drives me up the wall. People use the word bestest. Either it's good, better, or best. There is no bestest, betterer, or goodest.

*sighs*

Who's that crazy kook that's destroying the world. It's Zorc (That's me) It's Zorc and Pals.
Bakura: Did you forget our anniversary, again? (laughter)
Zorc: Yes, I was busy destroying the world (laughter) Slaughtering millions. (Laughter)
Bakura: That's my Zorc.
The blood of the innocents will flow without end. His name is Zorc, and he's destroying the world.
Sidhra/Sureal
Pancake
posted 10-04-2001 04:48:00 PM
I have on many occasions appoligized over my spelling and my grammar. I know it is horrible.
I've also asked people if they want me to send in my posts so they can correct such things.
I figure as long as I'm makeing an effort please don't slam me about it. I do the best I can with the resorces I've been given and until dry puts a spell and grammar check on this bad boy, I'll keep screwing up.
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 10-04-2001 04:56:00 PM
quote:
WaisztarrozBarrimas wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
You detected sarcasm that didn't exist. I lacked the highly vital smiley, though. I thought your post was pretty funny and didn't take it seriously.

Oh, good!

For a moment, when you said you were a sophomore in HS, I had that sinking feeling like you get when you realize the sinister, black-robed figure you just back-stabbed with your high-level Rogue is really an 80-year-old nun lurking in the shadows hoping to reach her convent safely. (One of my Master's degrees in in English.)

/whew

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Steven Steve
posted 10-04-2001 05:48:00 PM
I didn't read the entire thread, but the only time you can put the apostrophe s after a noun to show possession is when it's a proper noun. (EX: Joe's beans, New York City's citizens.)
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Steven Steve
posted 10-04-2001 05:49:00 PM
Oh yeah, and since people see the 's after possession in proper nouns, they think apostrophes go at the end of you (as in you're) instead of just an r. (as in your)

It's all about the apostrophe.

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 10-04-2001 06:05:00 PM
quote:
Fazumzen Fastfist had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I didn't read the entire thread, but the only time you can put the apostrophe s after a noun to show possession is when it's a proper noun. (EX: Joe's beans, New York City's citizens.)

Not really: the candle's flame. AFAIK, "'s" is a reasonably universal way to show possession. There are exceptions, of course, as there are to most things in English, but it's a pretty good rule of thumb that "'s" denotes possession when appended to a noun.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Ruvie's Alt
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
posted 10-04-2001 06:19:00 PM
I dont know what your talking about. Whats your problem with apostrophe's? Arent we aloud to make some mistakes? Geez!

Note: The above was humor. I am not that bloody stupid. Thank you for your time. Oh crap in a bag, I think I just picked up some bad grammar habits with this post. "OH NO i DAMAEG BRAEN!!!" to quote Kagrama's sigpic.

[ 10-04-2001: Message edited by: Ruvyen Warblade ]

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 10-04-2001 06:41:00 PM
This [subject, not understood] makes [who] giggle in my [where].
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 10-04-2001 06:50:00 PM
Bored VS Board

Gah. My cousins a grammer idiot. I can look at her notes all day and never get sick. IT goes something along the lines of 'Hay wats uhp eye eat some good fud rrleer butt it wus bad so its not gud so eye goht board how r youre silli.'

Kel
Pancake
posted 10-05-2001 08:22:00 AM
Good vs. Well

This one always makes me smirk...

When asked 'How do you feel' replying 'good' indicates that you are pleasant to the touch, while replying 'well' indicates your state of health.

I'm not really a grammer nazi, I just get amused by other people's usage. I don't use these on purpose anymore, because very rarely does anyone else get the joke... it's not fun to be laughing alone. (Yes, I'm a humor snob...)

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