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Daniel Gow
The Official "Whasap" Bear
posted 09-14-2001 04:39:00 PM
Microsoft is removing the notable buildings in NY and maybe other cities from the next version of Flight Simulator, just heard it on the radio.

Quite interesting, and I know it was talked about in IRC but...DISCUSS!

Somu Icewalker
Also known as Diet Dr. Evil
posted 09-14-2001 04:40:00 PM
Ya some idiot over at msnbc says that this whole thing is to blame on MS FS.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 09-14-2001 04:42:00 PM
Reminds me of something I wondered a couple times. Will they ever show that episode of The Simpsons where they go to New York? If I recall the WTC buildings were rather prominent in them.
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Daniel Gow
The Official "Whasap" Bear
posted 09-14-2001 04:44:00 PM
On that note JooJoo: Apparently they're changing a new batman movie or something, 'cause it has the WTC Towers in it.
BetaTested
Not gay, but loves the cock!
posted 09-14-2001 04:47:00 PM
Spider Man movie, I think it was, not bat Man, but I could be wrong.

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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 09-14-2001 04:50:00 PM
The trailer for the upcoming Spider Man movie was supposed to hit theaters this weekend, but was pulled. It featured fleeing bad guys getting caught in a web strung between the two WTC towers.

And anyone who thinks you can learn to fly airplanes solely from MS Flight Simulator hasn't a clue. It can help, but wouldn't allow what happened this week.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 09-14-2001 04:51:00 PM
I think its humbug to blame the MS Flight Simulator ....

(Yes, its the new Spiderman movie.)

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diadem
eet bugz
posted 09-14-2001 04:55:00 PM
Trivial question, but even if the terrorists wanted to use MS Flight simulator, wouldn't they just use an older version that still has the buildings?

[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: diadem ]

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JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 09-14-2001 05:01:00 PM
Jeez, can you imagine what it would be like if they destroyed the statue of liberty as well?
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Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 09-14-2001 05:06:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by diadem:
Trivial question, but even if the terrorists wanted to use MS Flight simulator, wouldn't they just use an older version that still has the buildings?


Yes.
And MOD programmers will put the removed buildings back in anyways.

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 09-14-2001 05:06:00 PM
Bastards never go after the perps themselves, always have to go after something that affects the rest of us.

Kid brings a gun to school, they blame it on Doom.

Terrorists crash a plane into a building, they blame a flight simulator?

What the FUCK is wrong with people?!

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
diadem
eet bugz
posted 09-14-2001 05:12:00 PM
so let me get this straight, if I write a drivers manual, someone reads my driving manual, then procedes to run someone over, its my fault for writing the drivers manual? mabey we should stop making cars. and water, people can drown in water, that should be banned. hands too, they can be quite nasty. Oh, I have a novel idea, BLAME THE TERRORISTS, NOT THEIR EQIUPMENT, YOU STUPID BRAIN DEAD I-WANT-MY-RATINGS FUCKS!

my $0.02,
diadem

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Peter
Pancake
posted 09-14-2001 09:06:00 PM
actully If you go into some stores (Like Wal-mart) now, you will notice alot of the flight sims have been pulled from the selves...

[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: Pyscho_Pike ]

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 09-14-2001 09:11:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by JooJooFlop:
Jeez, can you imagine what it would be like if they destroyed the statue of liberty as well?

Yes. The U.N would create the United Nations Anti Terrorist Coalition and... er, wrong reality.

But seriously, I hate how the asses higher up think they can do with censorship and all. I don't think the flight sims helped the terrorist strike in the least bit, jeez. I doubt any of those fundamentalist fanatics had the money to buy a computer that runs them either... Heh.

DOWN WITH CENSORSHIP!!!!
Mr. Duck
Likes to ____!
posted 09-14-2001 09:19:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tier:
Yes. The U.N would create the United Nations Anti Terrorist Coalition and... er, wrong reality.

and then someone would stop playing Deus Ex ^_^

EDIT: bwasted engwish skilz

[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: ? ]

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 09-14-2001 09:23:00 PM
I've only beat it 5 times over...

Anyway... The old 'censorship in video games' debate is getting so LAME. Right now I feel the urge to run rampant, loaded with weapons, and kill every censorship laden idiot on this planet, and it's not because I've played too much violent video games.

Sarnac
Pancake
posted 09-14-2001 10:13:00 PM
As a student pilot 5 hrs from his private pilots license and an owner or MSFS 2000 profesional edition. MSFS is not accurate, i land my cessna just about 10 times a week flawlessly in real life, i crash every time i try in MSFS. Basicly MSFS is good for navigation and understanding the CONCEPT of areodynamics nothing more.
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Kermitov
Pancake
posted 09-14-2001 11:09:00 PM
Agreed, as a student pilot with less official time than that but still enough time flying over the course of my lifetime to know, MSFS is not even "as real as it gets"

However I do agree with them removing the buildings from the new york scenery.

Also, VATSIM.net (Virtual Air Traffic Simulation Network) has a Notice to all MSFS pilots using their network that the flight restrictions that exist in real life also exist on their servers. No one is allowed within 20nm of the southern tip of Manhattan and no one is allowed within 20nm of the pentagon. No one is allowed to use the call signs of the doomed flights, and no one is allowed to use the call signs Air Force 1, AF1, Marine 1, Air Force 2, AF2, and Marine 2. Violators on the VATSIM network will be banned.

One of my more callous friends has already asked "So... have you re-created it in Flight Simulator yet?"

No... I haven't and I don't plan to... I would feel extremely guilty about it.

Ragabash
Pancake
posted 09-14-2001 11:16:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Gow:
On that note JooJoo: Apparently they're changing a new batman movie or something, 'cause it has the WTC Towers in it.

Um, isn't Batman in Gotham and not NY? Or do you mean they were gonna film it in the WTC towers?

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Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 09-14-2001 11:43:00 PM
They recalled all the copies of Red Alert 2. The inner flap box art has a picture of planes attacking new york, and of course the world trade center was right in the middle of it. HP has also recalled all the demo pods for their 2200se Laser printer- they print out a picture of a 757 flying over the world trade center when activated.
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The more I have to let go.
indegloriafeestbeest
Not Smart
posted 09-14-2001 11:50:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tier:
I doubt any of those fundamentalist fanatics had the money to buy a computer that runs them either... Heh.

DOWN WITH CENSORSHIP!!!!


They do if they're sponsored by Bin Laden....
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Abbikat
Tastes best with pudding
posted 09-15-2001 05:04:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Bloodsage:
The trailer for the upcoming Spider Man movie was supposed to hit theaters this weekend, but was pulled. It featured fleeing bad guys getting caught in a web strung between the two WTC towers.

That trailer has been showing in cinemas here in Australia for about the past month... although it has been pulled since Wednesday.




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Kermitov
Pancake
posted 09-15-2001 09:12:00 AM
Blockbuster has pulled "A Knight's Tale" from the shelves because the first thing on the tape was the spider man trailer.
Elspeth
Pancake
posted 09-15-2001 02:20:00 PM
*sigh* All of this is stupid, they're movies and games for crying out loud, they'd take your mind off of the real world. Good God, some censorers make me angry.

So you want to start a revolution. Well, you know...
Kermitov
Pancake
posted 09-15-2001 03:29:00 PM
MSFS users wont have to worry, It's quite easy to make custom scenery for the game and there are several hundred available scenery sets online to download.
Peter
Pancake
posted 09-15-2001 04:42:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ragabash:
Um, isn't Batman in Gotham and not NY? Or do you mean they were gonna film it in the WTC towers?

Actully someone told me ( He is a big Batman fan) That Gotham Is Supposed to be newyork at Night, and Metropolis is New York in the Day.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 09-15-2001 05:13:00 PM
Yes.

Gotham = New York

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

LordVladdDracul

posted 09-15-2001 09:04:00 PM
Yeah, when this happened I thought of Deus Ex and what it would be like if they had destroyed the statue of liberty...
I plot revenge on you as we speak...

Jtaio Stormcryer
Pancake
posted 09-15-2001 11:05:00 PM
quote:
Bastards never go after the perps themselves, always have to go after something that affects the rest of us.

Kid brings a gun to school, they blame it on Doom.

Terrorists crash a plane into a building, they blame a flight simulator?

What the FUCK is wrong with people?!


You forgot some.

A person starts worshipping the devil, they blame roleplaying games. (Yea, it's sad that people out there think roleplaying leads to devil worshipping)

(The following is true, but I choose not to use details) A dad kills his son, they blame it on EverQuest.

Next thing you know, when people get speeding tickets, they'll be blaming games like Nascar 4! "I thought I was still in front of my monitor typing on my keyboard!" And when people commit suicide, they'll say that it was EverQuest's fault because the person thought they were lost in Kelethin again.

For some reason, people are always trying to seek a 'reason' for something they knew they did intentionally. No video game is going to teach you how to fly a plane, shoot a gun, or jump off trees from unreasonable heights, stand up, and wipe the dust from your clothing like a Monk.

-Jtaio Stormcryer
Elspeth
Pancake
posted 09-16-2001 11:30:00 AM
I think blaming RPG's like Diablo for Devil Worshippers is stupid. Isn't the point of the Diablo games to KILL the Devil?

So you want to start a revolution. Well, you know...
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 09-16-2001 05:16:00 PM
you all are forgetting something, reason and logic has never gotten in the way of the American populace when they've made up they're collective mind that something is "bad"

[ 09-16-2001: Message edited by: Geeorn ]

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 09-16-2001 05:50:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Pyscho_Pike:
Actully someone told me ( He is a big Batman fan) That Gotham Is Supposed to be newyork at Night, and Metropolis is New York in the Day.

yep its metophorical

Metropolis gives the feeling of like a buslting vivrant busy city (NY i nthe day)

Gotham gives the feelign of dark, dangerous and mysterious city (NY at night) :P


thought its never been really confirmed (officially) but thats what we comic book freaks lilke to think

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