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Topic: THEY CAUGHT THE BASTARDS!
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 09-13-2001 09:20:00 PM
Today, four men boarded a plane at La Guardia International Airport. Each men had fake ID papers, and knives.

They tried to hijack one more plane.

And we caught those motherfuckers red-handed.

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 09-13-2001 09:23:00 PM
Hm, now I guess they can drop ethics, proceed to real interrogation, find the culprits and slam down the hammer on them.
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 09-13-2001 09:23:00 PM
For the story :
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/america.attack/

quote:
At least eight people were arrested Thursday at JFK and LaGuardia airports for carrying fake documentation, including one man posing as a pilot, and for immigration issues. Four of the suspects had been at one of the airports the day of the terrorist attacks but fled when challenged about identification at the ticket counter. They are being questioned by FBI agents on the joint terrorism task force.

quote:
One U.S. official told CNN, "Certainly this is being looked at -- that a hijacking was thwarted. There is concern in our office that this may have been another attempt"
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 09-13-2001 09:30:00 PM
quote:
To quote a Terran Vulture:
I'm about to drop the hammer, and dispense some indiscriminant Justice!
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Korvus
Pancake
posted 09-13-2001 10:02:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Densetsu:
[QUOTE]To quote a Terran Vulture:
[qb]I'm about to drop the hammer, and dispense some indiscriminant Justice!

[/QB][/QUOTE]

That's a siege tank

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 09-13-2001 10:04:00 PM
Seige Tank, Vulture, doesn't matter.

We may already have in custody eight of those fuckers who were part of these attacks.

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 09-13-2001 10:22:00 PM
8 poeple means nothing inless we can get them to convess

looks for a large blunt object


Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Solstyce
Vampiric pixie that might eat your face, if you're lucky
posted 09-13-2001 10:28:00 PM
Scalpel, matches, mild acid.

Go to work on the fuckers.

Shhh. Everyone will hear us. Everyone will know.
Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 09-13-2001 10:30:00 PM
Mild?, thats not good enoguht for theas fucken asses

Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 09-13-2001 10:34:00 PM
They deserve every horrible torture that can possibly be bestowed upon them, as death would be a luxury.

(edit)Somebody teach me how to spell(/edit)

[ 09-13-2001: Message edited by: Kegwen Tabibito ]

Solstyce
Vampiric pixie that might eat your face, if you're lucky
posted 09-13-2001 10:37:00 PM
Torture them horribly, then leave 'em alone for a while, few days, come back and torture more... leaving them hurt but not dying... scared like they made us...
Shhh. Everyone will hear us. Everyone will know.
Nfinit_Vylence
Pancake
posted 09-13-2001 11:39:00 PM
"When hunting monsters, one must be careful not to become a monster; for when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
--Nietzche
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 09-13-2001 11:44:00 PM
Fuck you American Satans!
-Hijackers of the planes

Yeah. That's right. They sent us a big "Fuck you". Far as I'm concerned they're the ones staring into the abyss. And we're staring right back at them with a can o' whup ass.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Maradon!
posted 09-14-2001 12:10:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nfinit_Vylence:
"When hunting monsters, one must be careful not to become a monster; for when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
--Nietzche

Who's more the monster? The terrorist who kills innocents, or the innocent who tolerates the terrorist?

And you can quote me on that one.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 09-14-2001 12:18:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kalran:
That's a siege tank

I haven't played StarCraft in a LONG time. Sue me.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Nfinit_Vylence
Pancake
posted 09-14-2001 12:18:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Maradon?:
Who's more the monster? The terrorist who kills innocents, or the innocent who tolerates the terrorist?

And you can quote me on that one.


And would you mind pointing out to me where I said they should be tolerated?

Make no mistake about it. Whoever is responsible for this should die. If for no other reason than to insure that it does not happen again.

But torture? Brutal, sadistic torture? Not bothering to find out thier guild first? How does that make us any better than they are? Isn't that the sort of thing the United States has allways stood against?

Our forfather's blood was not shed on the soil of Gettysburg and Normandy to see our nation become the monster we despised.

I know emotions are running high. That nerves are on edge. That there is a bloodlust within us. But nothing excuses brutality. Nothing. When you strike, you strike with the cold, hard anger of rightousness. Not rage.

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 09-14-2001 12:29:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nfinit_Vylence:
"When hunting monsters, one must be careful not to become a monster; for when you gaze into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
--Nietzche


Just a little warning, quote accurately.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster." --Friedrich Nietzsche

[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: Pvednes Phoenixfeather ]

Nfinit_Vylence
Pancake
posted 09-14-2001 12:31:00 PM
I've seen both quotes in various places.
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-14-2001 06:21:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Pvednes Phoenixfeather:

Just a little warning, quote accurately.

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster." --Friedrich Nietzsche


Who says yours is accurate and his isn't?

There is no way to really 'quote accurately'. Quotes get mangled over time.

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-14-2001 06:37:00 AM
Oh, and he was right. Some of the notions going around almost make me sick to be an American. People aparently like the ideals our country was founded on only when it suits them.
Dead Tired
Is usually a girl
posted 09-14-2001 06:40:00 AM

[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: Dead Tired ]

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 09-14-2001 06:48:00 AM
Firstly, I got mine from a book on Nietzsche, (which didn't have the other in) and secondly, I spelled Nietzsche right. (Yes, thats right.. I have no life when bored.)
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-14-2001 06:58:00 AM
They didn't arrest anyone with knives at air ports, heh. They brought a few people with fake papers into custody, which is hardly anything out of the ordinary. How do you think all those illegal immigrants get jobs?

Everyone they brought in was released.

Piper
Rabid Druid
posted 09-14-2001 07:08:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Nfinit_Vylence:
I know emotions are running high. That nerves are on edge. That there is a bloodlust within us. But nothing excuses brutality. Nothing. When you strike, you strike with the cold, hard anger of rightousness. Not rage.

quote:
Originally posted by Snoota:
Oh, and he was right. Some of the notions going around almost make me sick to be an American. People aparently like the ideals our country was founded on only when it suits them.

America has always been the very best at trying to put a pretty face on war. There is a faction in this country that seems to get their panties in a wad over the uglies in life.

Lets get a clue for just a moment please. War is brutal. It was not meant to be pretty or clean. I don't really give a damn about what ideals these "slayers of secretaries" have - it was the fact that the U.S. has historically worn lace handcuffs when fighting a war that gave these fuckers the balls to pull it off.

They've had a safe haven in Afghanistan, and the US would NEVER bomb a country that didnt take part in the attack... or would they?

There is no point at all in dropping the hammer unless it rings loud hard and instills complete terror in the hearts of those abiding helping hiding and consorting with theses fanatics. Otherwise, a new tomorrow will bring a new breed of terrorism.

The point of this war (and yes this is war) is not so much for vindication, but more like pre-emptive medicine. Only when the repercutions of terrorism are so heinous that old crusty war veterans begin to drool and quiver at the thought of it will everyone be free of these cowardly knives in the back.


PIPERPOWER
What?! I was talking about the fish you crazy bastard!
Aure entuluva! ...or at least I hope.
Leaasa
posted 09-14-2001 07:15:00 AM
(CNN)-- At least eight people were arrested Thursday at airports in New York because of new security measures -- including four people who were seen at one airport before Tuesday's terrorist attacks. All but one were later released. Sen. Joseph Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said there is "no evidence" that anyone has been involved in a second wave of attacks like Tuesday's. (Full story)
wimin r dum.
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Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-14-2001 07:15:00 AM
I was refering to the overwhelming sentiment everywhere I look of people wanting to seriously torture the ones that were caught. Can bomb the hell out of the people who did it for all I care. Torturing them would only get us kicked out of NATO and the UN for violating the Geneva convention. Even at times like this.

And why even torture them? Just excecute them. The United States has all but officially declared war. They were soldiers dressed in plain clothes caught in a war zone. According to the Geneva convetion, they are spies. Spies are subject to instant excecutions.

Espio Idsavant
You have gotten better at Being a Lush! (200)
posted 09-14-2001 07:30:00 AM
Is anyone else quite sick at the willingness of people to violate our own Consitution to punish people? Yes, those who did it are sick, deprived, baseless people. But that doesn't give us licence to provide them a symbolic victory by causing us to break our own 'code of morals'.

quote:
Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


The bastards who are responsible can rot in hell... but they shouldn't be allowed to get to there in a way that would violate our own laws.
And you can still be free, If time will set you free
And going higher than the mountain tops
And go high like the wind don't stop...


[ My gooberish Live Journal thingy ]

Nfinit_Vylence
Pancake
posted 09-14-2001 08:53:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Piper:
America has always been the very best at trying to put a pretty face on war. There is a faction in this country that seems to get their panties in a wad over the uglies in life.

All right. You say we are at war? Perhaps we are.

However, the state of war does not give us the right to torture prisoners of said. Hell, we don't even know for sure if these guys had anything to do with the attack whatsoever.

But even if they do, torture is inexcusable. There is the small matter of the Geneva Convention.


quote:

Article 13

Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention. In particular, no prisoner of war may be subjected to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are not justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the prisoner concerned and carried out in his interest.

Likewise, prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.

Measures of reprisal against prisoners of war are prohibited.


There are a long list of nations and regimes who have, over the years, chosen to ignore that article. The Third Reich. The Viet Cong. Iraq. WW2-Era Japan.

Would we really want a place at the dinner table of international atrocity?

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