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Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 09-11-2001 09:19:00 PM
quote:
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES

This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.

America: The Good Neighbor.

Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable
editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as
printed in the Congressional Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most
generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of
the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying
even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who
propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it When earthquakes hit distant
cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into
discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about
the decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them?
Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the
moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk
about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American
technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times -
and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store
window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued
and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they
are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at
home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through
age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad
and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose.
Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
people in trouble.

Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in
trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco
earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired
of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at
the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is
not one of those."

Stand proud, America! Wear it proudly!


Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 09-11-2001 09:21:00 PM
I like it...
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Skaw
posted 09-11-2001 09:23:00 PM
Canada seems less sucky now.
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 09-11-2001 09:24:00 PM
That was...great. I have a newfound respect for Candians.

My sister, who was reading over my shoulder at the time, also says thanks for posting that, Kinanik.

If this doesn't give us a reason to persevere, we might as well all just put on berets and start talking with outrageous accents.

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 09-11-2001 09:24:00 PM
Don't puff your head for a single person's opinion!

But, yes, America does r0x0r.

[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Tier ]

Star Collective
Pancake
posted 09-11-2001 09:25:00 PM
Wow...just...wow...its nice to have that kind of support from a country other than the U.S, when most others are busy tearing us down.
The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. - Ursula K. LeGuin ~ The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 09-11-2001 09:31:00 PM
quote:
Does any other
country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?

Concorde

quote:
If so, why don't they fly them?

They do

quote:
Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in
trouble?

Britain's enemies during the War of Independance, especially France

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 09-11-2001 09:33:00 PM
::hands Mortious a fire-protective suit of armor::
Skaw
posted 09-11-2001 09:34:00 PM
France showed up reaaaaaal late though
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 09-11-2001 09:40:00 PM
I liked that a lot, I think I'll forward it on. And Mort is right. But the article mentioned only american tragedies in peacetime that nobody rushed to help with.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Cap'n Elethi
I'm too sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt...
posted 09-11-2001 09:42:00 PM
Mort, he wasn't trying to say the US is better than everyone else, he's just saying that he feels for us, because we got attacked by a radical group of terrorists.
Elethi Rian, A Man Of Many Talents
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 09-11-2001 09:47:00 PM
[Cartman] Kickass! [/Cartman]
Veni, vidi, vici
Lalamile
My title doesn't even make sense any more
posted 09-11-2001 09:50:00 PM
France only assisted the US when they saw we had a good chance of wining. They did it so they could have another ally aginst briton.... and maybe take over the fledling nation.
Friz
I MA NOT A LOSRE!!!
posted 09-11-2001 09:58:00 PM
WoW.. im speachless
thanks for posting this Kinanik

In memory of the families of people who died in the tragic events of September 11, 2001

"What was I talking about again?"
"Before you respond with some ignorant drivel, please stop yourself."

Kermitov
Pancake
posted 09-11-2001 10:00:00 PM
quote:
Concorde

Concorde?

Ohh you mean the environmental, acoustical, and economic failure...

That concorde right?

[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Kermitov ]

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 09-11-2001 10:02:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kermitov:
Concorde?

Ohh you mean the environmental, acoustical, and economic failure...


didn't the US ban that from flying over it because it flew too fast?

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 09-11-2001 10:04:00 PM
I hope there are more Canadians that think like him.

This guy r0x.

Kermitov
Pancake
posted 09-11-2001 10:05:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Vorbis:
didn't the US ban that from flying over it because it flew too fast?

No... we didn't ban overflights altogether.

We banned supersonic overflights in general and if the concorde can't go supersonic it's an even BIGGER gas hog.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 09-11-2001 10:10:00 PM
I noticed there are no responses from our resident Canadians...
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Maradon!
posted 09-11-2001 10:12:00 PM
Concordes are being put out of service even in Britan. Not only have they recently proven overtly dangerous, they're also overtly expensive, catering to an extremely selective crowd of the very rich.

I'm glad I read this post. Between this and the British Prime Minister's speech on TV I've had a damp eye over the past half hour.

[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Maradon? ]

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 09-11-2001 10:15:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Densetsu:
I noticed there are no responses from our resident Canadians...

Read again.

Skaw
posted 09-11-2001 10:18:00 PM
Who ever did it, dug themselves a hole much, much, MUCH too deep to where almost every country in the world(With the exception of a select few middle eastern countries), will probably take some form of action against them.

Sure, US has killed innocent people during wartime. But this was during a time of peace, and was unprovoked. So the Devilish image of a bully country most likely has receeded abit to those who think of the United States as a controlmongering beeotch.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 09-11-2001 10:20:00 PM
*cheers*

It's sad that such a tragedy had to happen for it, but it's wonderful to see the outpouring of support coming our way from the rest of the world.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Lalamile
My title doesn't even make sense any more
posted 09-11-2001 10:27:00 PM
You really can't say it wasn't unprovoked..... There was no direct action.... but the way we have positioned out selves we are provking them...


Cool story too.

[ 09-11-2001: Message edited by: Lalamile ]

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 09-11-2001 10:30:00 PM
Still, you can't call shooting a man who stood next to you because you don't like people standing next to you a justifiable homocide.
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 09-11-2001 11:08:00 PM
*pats Kinanik on the head*
Thanks Kin. On a day like this...I needed to see something like that. I appreciate it.
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Sana-chan
Pancake
posted 09-11-2001 11:39:00 PM
This editorial was not actually prompted by the terrorist attacks. I recieved a copy of this in my email last night. If really hit home today though... especially with the feeling of some other countries that the US got what it deserved. THAT makes my blood boil. NO country deserves this kind of mass distruction of innocents.
"If you do that again I will pull your intestines out through your nose." --Warning to boyfriend
Abbikat
Tastes best with pudding
posted 09-12-2001 02:09:00 AM
Unfortunately I couldnt find anything similar in the papers here, but I can tell you that the vast majority of Australians feel the same way as the article.

We remember what the American troops did to help us in WW2 when the Japanese were advancing.. and we remember the British generals that wanted to keep the majority of Aussie troops in Africa fighting the Germans than trying to defend Australia (but we dont hold it against them either..)

America should know that whenever they call, Australia will be there to help out in any way we can... that's the kind of folks we are. We've not missed being involved in a war since our nation's founding (1901), or even for the 20 years before while a British colony, nor have we missed sending help in times of need.

I know that in this time of need for the Americans, that Australians from all walks of life will be there to do whatever they can to try and help their friends.


--
No dancing sig, in memory of the innocents who lost their lives

Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 09-12-2001 03:33:00 AM
*smiles at Kin* I read this one last year and was so moved by it that I forwarded it to all my friends. It does seem quite fitting now due to the indescribable loss we have taken and felt because of the terrorist actions of yesterday. Many thanks for reminding alot of people that we are not alone.
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Toktuk
Pooh Ogre
Keeper of the Shoulders of Peachis Perching
posted 09-12-2001 06:21:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by AbbigailSD:
America should know that whenever they call, Australia will be there to help out in any way we can... that's the kind of folks we are. We've not missed being involved in a war since our nation's founding (1901), or even for the 20 years before while a British colony, nor have we missed sending help in times of need.

The same applies for the great majority of Americans with respect to all of our Allies. If you're down, we'll be there, no questions asked. It never fails to amaze me the way people pull together in times of tragedy.

My initial reaction to times like this is general disgust. Has this world sunk so low that we have no qualms about slaughtering innocent people? But always, Humanity surprises me in the way that we can put aside our differences and pull together in times of great tragedy.

-Tok

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-12-2001 06:42:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Elethi:
Mort, he wasn't trying to say the US is better than everyone else, he's just saying that he feels for us, because we got attacked by a radical group of terrorists.

Actually, this is like two years old and was prompted by pretty much the entire world making fun of America because of Bill Clinton getting caught having his winky whacked.

Kermitov
Pancake
posted 09-12-2001 11:43:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Maradon?:
Concordes are being put out of service even in Britan. Not only have they recently proven overtly dangerous, they're also overtly expensive, catering to an extremely selective crowd of the very rich.

I'm glad I read this post. Between this and the British Prime Minister's speech on TV I've had a damp eye over the past half hour.


Actually Concorde got its airworthiness certificate back at the end of last month

don't know how these new events will affect it but BA and Air France had been planning to resume revenue flights.

Not that they ever got much revenue from the flights.

[ 09-12-2001: Message edited by: Kermitov ]

Likes Cheese
Pancake
posted 09-13-2001 05:01:00 AM
Dang, Canadians are pretty spiffy looking now. I heared that on the radio this mornin'. It was quite true. It's about time Canadians get involved in some kind of war/fight/bad-thinger.
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