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Leaasa

posted 09-04-2001 05:49:00 PM

freakin sweet. I can't wait for the movie.

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Leaasa

posted 09-04-2001 06:06:00 PM

the lord of the rings...
anyone? hello?

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Super Kagrama

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posted 09-04-2001 06:10:00 PM

i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11

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Black

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posted 09-04-2001 06:11:00 PM

Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

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Vorbis

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posted 09-04-2001 06:14:00 PM

Fellowship of the Rings, or the entire series? The movie is only based on the events until the breaking of the fellowship (or should be). I am only on Two Towers now

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Leaasa

posted 09-04-2001 06:19:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Vorbis:
Fellowship of the Rings, or the entire series? The movie is only based on the events until the breaking of the fellowship (or should be). I am only on Two Towers now

There will be three movies, and I am looking forward to all of them =)

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Black

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posted 09-04-2001 06:22:00 PM

It was very clever of the producers of the LotR movies to film all of them together. That way, there wouldn't be fear of having to gather everyone(Actors, Directors, etc) back together for the next one.

Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

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Kanid

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posted 09-04-2001 06:49:00 PM

I've read those books (Trilogy and The Hobbit) more times than any other, I believe. Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever and Chronicles of Amber coming a close second and third.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe

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Cap'n Elethi

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posted 09-04-2001 06:52:00 PM

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Originally posted by Kanid's Corpse:
Chronicles of Amber

You mean by Rodger Zelazny? I just started reading them. I'm on the second one, The Guns Of Avalon.

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Kanid

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posted 09-04-2001 07:10:00 PM

Yep. Zelazny was a great writer. I've liked every book of his.

Check out Changeling and Madwand when you get a chance.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe

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Sarudani Miolnir

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posted 09-04-2001 09:31:00 PM

Read it, nice story, but Tolkien was the posterchild of the long winded writer's guild. I really liked The Hobbit, as the story moved along at a reasonable pace, but LOTR just drags on and on with no end in sight. Reading it felt like I was reading something for school, by the end of it I didn't really care how it ended as long as it ended.

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Keophex

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posted 09-04-2001 09:33:00 PM

I've read The Hobbit and am on page 300 something of Fellowship of the Ring. I agree with the whole dragons on part.

Bomb the shit out of them, and make them pay for what they did 9/11/01

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Palador ChibiDragon

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posted 09-04-2001 10:38:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sarudani Miolnir:
Read it, nice story, but Tolkien was the posterchild of the long winded writer's guild. I really liked The Hobbit, as the story moved along at a reasonable pace, but LOTR just drags on and on with no end in sight. Reading it felt like I was reading something for school, by the end of it I didn't really care how it ended as long as it ended.
Sar...

Same here.

Also, why didn't the dragon just let out a bit of flame when it knew someone was in the room? Visable or not, people still burn. Then, it could have just smashed any burning/screaming thing, and gotten Bilbo easily.

Can you immagine Smaug (sp?) with the One Ring? Heheheh

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.

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Keophex

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posted 09-04-2001 10:45:00 PM

I can't believe Smaug got killed by a stupid normal arrow. Sure, Smaug's underbelly was exposed, but he was in the air and that arrow wouldn't have penetrated by a few inches at most I would think. Those humans should have all died!!!! Reminds me of Merllin. Wings of Fire drying from a Kreelix bite on the wing.

Bomb the shit out of them, and make them pay for what they did 9/11/01

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Tristan

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posted 09-04-2001 11:51:00 PM

Am I the only one who dident like those books?

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Toktuk

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posted 09-05-2001 01:13:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Keophex:
I can't believe Smaug got killed by a stupid normal arrow. Sure, Smaug's underbelly was exposed, but he was in the air and that arrow wouldn't have penetrated by a few inches at most I would think. Those humans should have all died!!!! Reminds me of Merllin. Wings of Fire drying from a Kreelix bite on the wing.

I believe it was a special arrow that had been handed down to Bard from his father, who received it from his father. I know for sure it was mentioned in the old cartoon, but that differs from the book in quite a few places. I'll have to double check the book when I get home.

-Tok

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Kekvit Irae

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posted 09-05-2001 01:34:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Fennar:
Am I the only one who dident like those books?

Do you count people who hasnt read it yet? Cause that's me.

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Palador ChibiDragon

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posted 09-05-2001 01:37:00 AM

I'm not all that fond of them, but they lay the groundwork for alot of fantasy "basics".

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.

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Ragabash

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posted 09-05-2001 02:48:00 AM

forgive me if i do the quote incorrectly

quote:
Also, why didn't the dragon just let out a bit of flame when it knew someone was in the room? Visable or not, people still burn.

Depends how much Smaug liked his treasures i would think. Nice pieces of shiny armor and gold coins everywhere, or just masses of melted metal everywhere.

Feed my hungry soul.

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Zaza

I don't give a damn.

posted 09-05-2001 03:46:00 AM

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Originally posted by ChibiDragon:
Same here.
Also, why didn't the dragon just let out a bit of flame when it knew someone was in the room? Visable or not, people still burn. Then, it could have just smashed any burning/screaming thing, and gotten Bilbo easily.
Can you immagine Smaug (sp?) with the One Ring? Heheheh

Dragons, Smaug included, enjoy playing with their prey, and Bilbo was amusing him with his talk.

He didn't consider Bilbo a threat, so saw no reason to melt him right away.

Mistake no.1.

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Leaasa

posted 09-05-2001 05:42:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Kanid's Corpse:
I've read those books (Trilogy and The Hobbit) more times than any other, I believe. Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever and Chronicles of Amber coming a close second and third.

yeah, I know a couple people reading the Thomas Covenant ones... I'd like to read The Silmarillion before I move to another author.

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Leaasa

posted 09-05-2001 05:49:00 AM

Tolkien was the father of all fantasy, he was the first... In fact, a lot of the inspiration for EQ came directly from Tolkien, including but not limited to orcs, wood elves, high elves, dwarves, halflings, walking talking trees (I can't remember what they're called in EQ), wizards, necromancers... anyone have anything else to add?

I couldn't STOP reading them, I thought they were excellent books, but I probably wouldn't have liked them if I were younger or had a shorter attention span. I am so looking forward to Christmas now tho =)

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Leaasa

posted 09-05-2001 06:01:00 AM

my best friend started reading the Hobbit and didn't like it, so it's just difference in personality I guess.

You guys that didn't like LOTR, what's your fav book(s)?

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Dr. Gee

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posted 09-05-2001 06:48:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Sarudani Miolnir:
Read it, nice story, but Tolkien was the posterchild of the long winded writer's guild. I really liked The Hobbit, as the story moved along at a reasonable pace, but LOTR just drags on and on with no end in sight. Reading it felt like I was reading something for school, by the end of it I didn't really care how it ended as long as it ended.
Sar...

hehehe exactly Sar. i can only read about 50 pages of that book at a time without ripping my hair out.

he reminds me of Dickens. that's a bad thing.

don't get me wrong Tolkien is a StoryMaster but he's just about as windy as my backside after a 30 scoop sundae followed by chugging a gallon of milk.

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Piper

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posted 09-05-2001 07:13:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Sarudani Miolnir:
Read it, nice story, but Tolkien was the posterchild of the long winded writer's guild. I really liked The Hobbit, as the story moved along at a reasonable pace, but LOTR just drags on and on with no end in sight. Reading it felt like I was reading something for school, by the end of it I didn't really care how it ended as long as it ended.
Sar...

okie sar, i gotta call you out. poster child for the writer's guild?! what exactly do you mean?

As for the hobbit being easier to read than the fellowship trilogy, its no wonder. The Hobbit was written for his little boy as a children's book. The trilogy was written due to popular demand after the entire world flipped out over the Hobbit and the world of Middle Earth. He gave birth to Fantasy Proper and we haven't gotten enough of it since.

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Galliwyn

Pancake

posted 09-05-2001 07:22:00 AM

Tolkein wrote a best seller in fantasy at a time when no one could get fantasy published.
He gave new life to the genre. Almost everything since has borrowed heavily from him. Yes his writing is detailed, but if you dont like details, why are you reading the book? Im certain you can find a comic book edition that is more suitable to your interests/attention span.

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Bajah

posted 09-05-2001 07:58:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Toktuk:
I believe it was a special arrow that had been handed down to Bard from his father, who received it from his father. I know for sure it was mentioned in the old cartoon, but that differs from the book in quite a few places. I'll have to double check the book when I get home.
-Tok

It was a black arrow. Bard was a descendent of Girion(sp), Lord of the Glade, from the time before Smaug when that area of land was prosperous and Thror was the King Under the Mountain.

The book states specifically that the arrow had been passed down from father to son on down through generations until it was in the possession of Bard. He also stated that the arrow never missed it's mark and he was always able to recover it.

This alludes to it being enchanted

This concludes today's "Bajah teaches Histoy" session.

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Sarudani Miolnir

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posted 09-05-2001 09:08:00 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Piper:
okie sar, i gotta call you out. poster child for the writer's guild?! what exactly do you mean?
As for the hobbit being easier to read than the fellowship trilogy, its no wonder. The Hobbit was written for his little boy as a children's book. The trilogy was written due to popular demand after the entire world flipped out over the Hobbit and the world of Middle Earth. He gave birth to Fantasy Proper and we haven't gotten enough of it since.

That's "Poster child for the long winded writers guild". Tolkien was a linguist by trade, and I just found LOTR excessively wordy. I like deep stories (e.g. Herbert's Dune series), but there's a point where you lose the forest for in depth discriptions of differing mosses growing on the trees.

If anyone deserves credit for creating the fantasy genre, it's Eleanor of Aquitaine. Tolkien most definately brought it back into popularity during this century, but all he really invented was the "trilogy" marketing concept where any fantasy story worth printing needs several books to get the story told.