But that's just my opinion...
quote:I think that sums it up, really.
Originally posted by Arttemis the Twink:
True black is not a color, but there is a color 'black'.
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Originally posted by Kennatsu:
Black can't really be considered a color, since it is THE absence of color. White is all colors combined.
I thought it was the other way around.
Mix all your paint colors together, what color do you end up with?
For things, black is all colors combined, while white is the absence of color.
For light, white is all colors combined, while black is the absence of color, and therefore light.
And black and white aren't colors, really- Just shades of grey, which IS a color.
People think of pigment/paint and say black is a color, but if you understand how a pigment produces a color you see why it isn't. Pigments produce a color by reflecting different wavelengths of light, and absorbing others. For example, red pigment reflects light in the red wavelengths, while absorbing the rest of the visible spectrum. White pigment reflects all of the spectrum, where black absorbs all of it. (That's why a black car in the sun is 40 degrees hotter inside than a white one.)
The thing is, there is NO true black pigment, as all of the blacks reflect a small amount of light. True black is invisible, if they could make a true black pigment you couldn't see it. The only way to really experience it is to enclose yourself in total darkness.
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Originally posted by Fazumzen Fastfist:
Last time I checked, black is FFFFFF, (full red full green full blue) and white is 000000. Am I right? So this means black is a color.
You've got it backwards.
If you're talking about pigments, then yes black is a color. A pigment can be mixed to give a black appearance.
If you're talking about the visible spectrum of light, then no, black is not a color. No combination of electromagnetic waves of various frequency within the visible spectrum (aka. light) will produce black.
If you're talking about the entire electromagnetic spectrum, then you could technically consider the whole spectrum outside the visible light spectrum to be "black" light, since it produces no visible color, but that's kinda pushing it.
nuff said
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Now we could get into a whole different theory aobut how we see color. Is what I see as green the same as what others see as green. Perhaps what I percive as green is what others percive as red. In other words:
I look at the grass and see that it is green.
Someone else looks at the grass and says it is also green.
However since we have no frame of reference as to how the other person views the grass it is very possible that what they see as green is what I would see as Red.
Hmm not sure how much sense that makes typed out.
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Originally posted by Azizza:Now we could get into a whole different theory aobut how we see color. Is what I see as green the same as what others see as green. Perhaps what I percive as green is what others percive as red. In other words:
I look at the grass and see that it is green.
Someone else looks at the grass and says it is also green.
However since we have no frame of reference as to how the other person views the grass it is very possible that what they see as green is what I would see as Red.
Hmm not sure how much sense that makes typed out.
I know exactly what you mean.. I kept thinking that one day.. s'wierd :P
quote:You do know that second part is a published scientific paper, right? At least I think it was. This proves two things. (1) What you said makes sense. (2) The reason society is in such disarray is because we've nearly exhausted the realm of new ideas.
Originally posted by Azizza:
Black is NOT a color. It is the absense of all light and therefore does not exist. The lack you see on say.. A shirt is actually an extremely dark blue or purple. When you see something that is trye black you are seeing no color being reflected back at you. Therfor while it is possible to "See where something black is you can not see "Black" This is also why everything appears black when there is no light. There is no light to reflect off of anything therefor what you see is "blackness"Now we could get into a whole different theory aobut how we see color. Is what I see as green the same as what others see as green. Perhaps what I percive as green is what others percive as red. In other words:
I look at the grass and see that it is green.
Someone else looks at the grass and says it is also green.
However since we have no frame of reference as to how the other person views the grass it is very possible that what they see as green is what I would see as Red.
Hmm not sure how much sense that makes typed out.
You've also done a decent job of describing how BLACK manages to be not a color. The "black" color in the box of crayons is a coat of wax (as are all crayons) which shields the light-colored paper/wall/surface you draw on, absorbs all visible light spectrums (by combining the absorbing qualities of all three primary colors), and leaves you with nothing reflected back. This is why, when you overlap sheets of different-tinted glass, you get black. Each layer of glass absorbs spectrums of light outside its visible range. Layering opposite colors (such as Red and Green) of glass will cause the combined layers to become opaque (no light passes through), thereby casting a shadow. At that point, the only color to get through the layered glass is determined by the transparency of the tinted colors (measurable as a %).
I still think my explanation makes more sense: You say "Is black a color?" and I say "Define color."
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Originally posted by Maradon?:
But black is a pigment, and thus can be regarded as a color in that respect.I still think my explanation makes more sense: You say "Is black a color?" and I say "Define color."
TRy to make a black laser, or even a white laser. You can't, beuse niether are true colors, just levels of reflection/brightness. This is why adding black or white pigments to say a blue paint will make it a brighter or darker color, because it is absorbing more or reflecting more light. Black and White are not True Colors, But could consdiered a derived color.
( My best analogy would be Centripitale force compared to centafugles force. Centripitle force is real, but centrafugle for is a fake force, but used to describe a feeling or sense)
Okay i must go to bed so i can see what i am typeing again, fook it, leave that bad spellings in [ 08-18-2001: Message edited by: Pyscho_Pike ]
Black is a color, for the simple reason that there is no logical alternate name for it.
The absence of visible light is not "black", it is "dark".
In the same context, pure visible light energy is not "white", it is "bright".
It all boils down to one's mental conception and understanding of a word.
... I guess.
Gray = All colors, because its the neutral color. It's much like saying 5 is the middle number of 0-10.
