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Topic: Oh ho ho, silly males! You don't need a penis to father a child!
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-21-2002 08:55:28 PM
See?

Well, it ain't here yet, but...

Discuss.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Aaron (the good one)
posted 01-21-2002 08:57:20 PM
Those two are the ugliest woman I have ever seen
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Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 01-21-2002 08:57:43 PM
This thread frightens and confuses me.
Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
Kameks
BANNED
posted 01-21-2002 09:03:29 PM
EWWWW you shouldnt be allowed to be a lesbian unless you look like they do in porn videos.
People who try to commit suicide should be dragged out into the street and shot. Heck they wont complain this what they wanted :)

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Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 01-21-2002 09:04:38 PM

The one on the right is FEMALE!?

ArchAngel
Not a girl, never will be, no matter how much you may hear differently
posted 01-21-2002 09:07:51 PM
Hrm... I wonder if they can make egg cells like that...

Did I just say that?

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2002 09:16:56 PM
don't see why they couldn't create a second cell nucleus and remove the existing one. would need a cell donor but those are common enough.

The idea of this bugs me though. Not because lesbian women wouldn't need men...but...When a father's sperm and a mother's egg mix, they've each got half the genetic material needed, right? they're MADE that way by the body.

Cutting someone else's genetic material in half sounds kinda dangerous. How are you sure all the necessary information on each half is present?

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Pancake
posted 01-21-2002 09:17:25 PM
scary enough, theon on the right looks like my cousin, Jason. and this is...interesting, ohh well, it looks like woman ddont need men anymore

i agree with deth

[ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: Daemon_Reaper ]

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Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-21-2002 09:20:58 PM
if you guys call them ugly...

*scowls and won't comment any further*

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 01-21-2002 09:20:59 PM
I'm with Deth and the professor that commented in the article. Cutting genetic information in half without a full understanding of exactly what that information controls is going to lead to bad things.

[ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: Lyinar ]


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Solstyce
Vampiric pixie that might eat your face, if you're lucky
posted 01-21-2002 09:24:23 PM
I'm... with Ly and Deth on this one. experimentation with this is going to lead to some scary versions of a human.

Nature did it the way it's supposed to be done for a reason.

Shhh. Everyone will hear us. Everyone will know.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 01-21-2002 09:26:12 PM
I'm with that professor, Ly, Deth, and Sol here.

This is a mistake.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2002 09:26:46 PM
Seems like they're rushing. I think the potential is great. Lesbian couples could have kids, fathers who had sudden-onset or late-detection of prostate or testicular cancer could father kids, etc.

I just think that it's dangerous. Yes we have the human genome mapped and we know where to look for certain traits...but without an exact map of each parent's DNA strand how would you know where to cut?

Pushing this into production in 18 months when they're just experimenting with creating viable embryos now...that seems waaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of it's time.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
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Pvednes
Lynched
posted 01-21-2002 09:31:09 PM
This is being done before a human being has been cloned.

This particular procedure is a lot more complex than cloning, and should wait untill more has been done in this particular line of engineering, in my opinion.

Ryuujin
posted 01-21-2002 09:32:55 PM
I only have one thing to say about that...

HOLE-EE SHIT

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 01-21-2002 09:37:59 PM
I believe I speak for everyone when I post:

[ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: Mortious Shadowstalker ]

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2002 09:41:43 PM
Likewise I'd like to know how they're getting around the issue of telomerase degradation. The problem with cloning is that the clone is made with the chromosomal material of the parent organism. Chromosomes have bits called Telomerase (if I'm not mistaken) that seems to be tied into how old a person is. After so many iterations of cell separation/reproduction, the telomerase gets old. Either grows longer or shorter, I forget.

Anyway the deal with cloning is that the cloning process in no way corrects the telomerase issue. To date I don't think there's any way to fix it. So if you clone someone who's 30, then even though the baby's a baby, the baby's likely got chromosomal traits of a 30 year old...meaning some defects may occur down the line.

In fact the only chromosomes in the body that don't show signs of chromosomal telomerase age are those in sperm and egg cells.

So if you've got two 30 year old mothers...even assuming you know where to cut the chromosomal line safely...you've still likely got 30 year old telomerase issues. This could cause all sorts of defects, or could potentially shorten the child's life by 30 years by causing the onset of "old age" traits like presbyopia (age-related vision problems), organ malfunctions, etc.

In fact telomerase age is one of those things that makes people wary of cloning in some circles, from what I understood. How would you like to start having age-related problems attributed to 60 year olds when you're 30?

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Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-21-2002 09:42:22 PM
I'm goin with Deth on this one...
Ryuujin
posted 01-21-2002 09:43:32 PM
What if this is the start of some freaky Planet of the Women

Have males outlived their use?!

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-21-2002 09:48:44 PM
I have no more arguments though...hang around a genetics wiz like Lyinar long enough and you start to pick up interesting tidbits but she knows her stuff and I just sound like I do...don't have any more clever biology facts hehehehe
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Pvednes
Lynched
posted 01-21-2002 09:51:21 PM
I was wondering what that was called, Thanks Deth.

The only way, then, would be to reverse that process of telomerase aging... somehow?

Maradon!
posted 01-21-2002 09:54:02 PM
This theory has been around for a good long while, and I'm really not surprised that they're acting on it finally.

Do I think it's a hideous perversion of nature? Yup. Because of this, I will abstain from participating in such a procedure. Or rather I would if I were even capable of undergoing such a procedure.

What the lesbiens of the world do, however, is none of my business.

If all goes well, they'll spawn legions of mutants that will threaten all of humanity and unite us in a joint effort to destroy them, inadvertantly bringing about world peace.

Is this the end of babies concieved through standard intercourse? Well, roughly 80% of the internet's content is pornography. What do you think?

As a side note, yes, those women are eye watering, gut wrenchingly ugly.

[ 01-21-2002: Message edited by: Maradön? ]

Toktuk
Pooh Ogre
Keeper of the Shoulders of Peachis Perching
posted 01-21-2002 10:00:59 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about John Romero:
Cutting someone else's genetic material in half sounds kinda dangerous. How are you sure all the necessary information on each half is present?

I have a weird hunch that the people doing this know about a bajillion times more about this subject than you. That's why we call them "experts". Morally, I feel that this kind of procedure should be outlawed. That said, there's no doubt in my mind that the scientists who are researching this know exactly what they are doing...

-Tok

Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 01-21-2002 10:21:25 PM
Imagine what a child of those two would look like?

There is a large amount of Ugly in that gene pool

*shudder*

Ocyrrhoe Trazere
Bootylicious!!
posted 01-21-2002 11:25:58 PM
You know, I looked at the title to this thread, and I immediatly thought to myself:

"Well Ocy, this is either going to be extremely disturbing on many, many different levels, scar you for life, or make you laugh.. Maybe you should stay clear of it!"

So, of course, I opened the thread. I looked at the article, and then, to my surprise, read the whole damned thing in full. My mind was screaming at me the entire time to STOP, but me, being too tired to realize it, read it all.

I have but one thing to say to the entire thing.

EWW.

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Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 01-22-2002 05:36:02 AM
Not only does the article scare me...but so does the picture =p
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Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 01-22-2002 06:46:59 AM
...

okay, congratulations to Adele and Dawn for the possibility of being able to have their own kids...but that's kind of yucky. but then again, i'm just a freshman in high school/biology I. i just think it's ahead of its time, too.

Maelarr
Pancake
posted 01-22-2002 06:47:36 AM
ur just a freshman?!?!

All Empires Fall, You just have to know where to push- Me
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Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 01-22-2002 06:50:22 AM
he said "ur"


gah!

"ur just a Freshman?"

You have no right to say, "just" to her, if you can't spell the word "you're".

thx plz drive thru

Maelarr
Pancake
posted 01-22-2002 06:51:26 AM
shaddup
<grumbles about mean'ol nae>

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Maelarr
Pancake
posted 01-22-2002 06:53:06 AM
oh and cant drive thru, not without an adult over 21 in the car with a drivers liscence

grrrr
got 18 days left of the 90 i need to get liscence and 3 more driving hours out of the 60 i need

Tennessee new driving laws suck
took place 13 days before my birthday


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Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 01-22-2002 06:54:22 AM
Kloie keelz Silliddar.
Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 01-22-2002 06:54:32 AM
/bully dude from the Simpsons ON

HA HA


/bully dude from the Simpsons OFF


Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 01-22-2002 06:55:25 AM
ph34r Nelson!

*stops posting to help prevent hijack*

Maelarr
Pancake
posted 01-22-2002 06:56:20 AM
<gets with his other senior friends and dumps kloie in a wastebasket smid shouts of "FRESHMEAT!">

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Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 01-22-2002 07:28:23 AM
quote:
Siliddar had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
<gets with his other senior friends and dumps kloie in a wastebasket smid shouts of "FRESHMEAT!">

Tell me, do you enjoy pounding your nuts into a trash compactor filled with rabid squirls and 'Fishers'?

Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 01-22-2002 07:48:14 AM
This is one fucked up expirement....
Radience
Pancake
posted 01-22-2002 10:38:28 AM
I remember hearing about this quite a while ago, but lost the link to any of the related articles, thanka.

I'm questioning the cutting of the genetic material at all. You've got an egg.. it has an "X" chromosome.. take the other egg, it has an "X" .. bingo you've got a baby girl. No need for cutting the material in half. You just can't produce a boy using two women, with Males being the ones that are the only source of "Y".

There was actually a series of sci-fi stories that I read in an evening college class last year about a whole socieity based on this. I'll have to find it's name again.

Besides.. when you've got scientists making glowing mice & trees and goats that squirt spider silk instead of milk, the "genetic purity" of mankind just seems kinda.. silly.

Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 01-22-2002 10:44:10 AM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Radience was all like:
Besides.. when you've got scientists making glowing mice & trees and goats that squirt spider silk instead of milk, the "genetic purity" of mankind just seems kinda.. silly.

That was the best thing I have ever read.

Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 01-22-2002 10:46:53 AM
quote:
Pesco had this to say about Pirotess:
This is one fucked up thread....

Fixed a spelling error.

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