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Pvednes
Lynched
posted 03-25-2005 11:59:05 AM
Post here if you would be interested in participating in a game of 3rd Edition Forum-based D&D...with a difference!

The setting she shall be in a neolithic to early bronze age, set in a seemingly endless, untouched and wild world, ruled not by the Gods, but by the animistic Spirits.

Pair and Rena
Pancake
posted 03-25-2005 12:29:04 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm?

more info?

Redmage Darkrayver
Moron
posted 03-27-2005 06:19:01 PM
Definately sounds interesting.

I agree, more details would be nice

Ruvyen
Cartoon Broccoli Boy
posted 03-27-2005 08:54:17 PM
Can we play Half-Orcs?
Thief: "I have come to a realisation. Dragons are not real in a general sense, but they may exist in certain specific cases."
Fighter: "Like how quantum mechanics describes how subatomic particles can spontaneously pop into existence at random!"
Thief: "No, that's stupid and stop making up words."
--8-Bit Theater
YOTG's porn account
Pancake
posted 03-28-2005 02:53:33 AM
details are your friends.

Trust me when I say you have enough players.

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 03-28-2005 08:55:16 AM
Now for some details. The first thing to note, is that our equivalent of this period (The time of the Younger Dryas, at the end of the Pleistocene epoch and the start of the Holocene epoch) is known as prehistory. The defining characteristic of prehistory is: No writing.

The first effect this has on the game, is classes, and the role they play.

The following classes do not yet exist in this period:
- Wizard. (For obvious reasons.)
- Cleric. (No Gods, no scripture, etc)
- Paladin. (See Cleric)
- Monk. (Advanced well beyond the neolithic peoples.)

The following new classes replace the above classes:
- Witch-doctor: Somewhere between an adept, a witch and a cleric. Divine magic with a small mix of the arcane, spirit possession and ritual sacrifice.
- Ancient Fighter: Modified from the Fighter class. Think Okonkwo from Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart.

The following PHB classes are more or less unchanged:
- Sorceror
- Barbarian
- Rogue
- Bard: As there is no writing, the Bard is the keeper of the oral tradition.
- Druid
- Ranger

Stay tuned!

`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 03-28-2005 09:30:42 AM
Sounds interesting. I'm not sure yet if I'd have the time to participate, but as with others, I'd like more info.

A few cautions about the general concept as it sounds so far:

  • Be wary of placing characters in a location where no members of a PC race can reach. If members of the initial party die, you may need to allow replacements from races available locally. You can ask Hireko about this one; it killed one of her early campaigns.
  • Decide, at least for yourself, whether any humanoid races can be found in the unexplored lands. If the answer is yes, you don't need to tell the players, but they'll need to run into them eventually. Any humanoid races encountered would add to the pool of races available for replacement characters (if a PC dies). Should you decide that no humanoid races exist in the outside world, pay particular attention to the notes below this one.
  • Be sure to balance the CR of encounters, and more importantly the types of creatures encountered, against the fact that the party will have sub-standard equipment compared to standard-setting D&D. In addition to the obvious quality differences in basic equipment, it sounds like pre-crafted magic items could be in very short supply. Anything with damage reduction will cause serious problems, in either 3.0 or 3.5.
  • I advise making low-cost spell components unnecessary. This is equivalent to giving Eschew Materials as a free feat to all spellcasters. Renewing spell components may prove complicated in areas where there's no trade and unknown available resources.
  • Pick a starting level. Odds are you'll want something above level 1, since L1 characters tend to die easily, and wouldn't be prone to venturing into the great unknown during any less than dire circumstances.
  • From a player standpoint, it'll really help to have craft skills in the party. Be prepared for players requesting time to craft, as you'll need to fast-forward through these periods. It helps if multiple characters craft at once, or aid with crafting. In D&D 3.5, this applies to superior materials crafting as well as magic item crafting, if the party actually locates (and identifies) suitable materials (an adamantine meteor, for example). It also applies to any standard equipment, or equipment repairs, that they may require.
  • Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
    There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
    I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
    Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
    Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

    Pvednes
    Lynched
    posted 03-28-2005 09:56:14 AM
    Playable Races:
    [Warning: Tribes, Settlements, Wandering bands (parties), etc will be mostly racially homogenous. Except for slaves. Be warned.]

    Greater Humanoid: Chalcolithic-Early Bronze age.
    - Human
    - Half-orc -Mix with either human tribes or orcish tribes
    - Half-elf -Mix with human tribes
    - Dwarf
    - Halfling
    - Orc


    Lesser Humanoid: Mesolithic-Neolithic.
    - Goblin
    - Hobgoblin
    - Catpeople
    - Kobold
    - Gnome


    Fey: Spirit people, Unclassified
    - Elf: Restricted to Druid or Ranger
    - Other Fey by negotiation


    Currency: None.

    Trade is accomplished via commodities and items, with no medium of value. However, prices within the PHB still determine the relative value of items such as weapons, food, livestock, slaves, magic, womenfolk, etc.

    Stay tuned.

    Pvednes fucked around with this message on 03-28-2005 at 10:03 AM.

    `Doc
    Cold in an Alley
    posted 03-28-2005 10:05:02 AM
    IMPORTANT!

    Is there a language that operates like Common in standard rules, or is it just considered the Human language?

    Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
    There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
    I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
    Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
    Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

    Katrinity
    Cookie Goddess!
    posted 03-28-2005 11:16:10 AM
    Oooh! Catpeople! Color me interested ^.^
    Cookie Goddess Supreme
    Furry Kitsune of Power!
    Pouncer of the 12th degree!
    "Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
    Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
    Dr. Gee
    Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
    posted 03-28-2005 02:45:38 PM
    I might be interested as well.
    Katrinity
    Cookie Goddess!
    posted 03-28-2005 03:43:21 PM
    I claim Catpeople for me! No one else takes them or I stab you in the knees! ^.^
    Cookie Goddess Supreme
    Furry Kitsune of Power!
    Pouncer of the 12th degree!
    "Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
    Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
    `Doc
    Cold in an Alley
    posted 03-28-2005 04:07:44 PM
    quote:
    When they turned on the Infinite Improbability Drive, Katrinity stammered,
    I claim Catpeople for me! No one else takes them or I stab you in the knees! ^.^
    quote:
    Pvednes needs to hitch a ride with a Vogon constructor fleet.
    Playable Races:
    [Warning: Tribes, Settlements, Wandering bands (parties), etc will be mostly racially homogenous. Except for slaves. Be warned.]

    Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
    There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
    I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
    Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
    Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

    Katrinity
    Cookie Goddess!
    posted 03-28-2005 04:23:00 PM
    quote:
    Nobody really understood why `Doc wrote:

    Pfft, no one can tame the wild kitty beast beating within my heart! ^.^

    Cookie Goddess Supreme
    Furry Kitsune of Power!
    Pouncer of the 12th degree!
    "Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
    Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
    Dr. Gee
    Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
    posted 03-28-2005 05:41:11 PM
    quote:
    Nobody really understood why `Doc wrote:

    That said i could still see a clan of Humans/Half-Elves or Humans/Half-Orcs being reasonable.

    Pair and Rena
    Pancake
    posted 03-28-2005 06:56:04 PM
    I'm having a Delima:

    -A goblin shaman that thinks his the next best thing after the greation of fire

    or

    -A Kobolt that invents and creat things WAY befor his time and they, A: dont work B: work yet explodes (even with the lack of and consumables) or C: work, it could revolusonise everything but this cards it because it's simply WAY to crazy ideas!

    Y.O.T.C
    No longer a Towel Girl
    posted 03-29-2005 03:42:18 AM
    dwarf bard with cha 8...


    OH YEA! BLUFF BLUFF BLUFF!! BLUFF THE *Smashes lute on ogre.*
    There, lets get on with it.

    give me a level, and I will make her.

    ps: I clicked the box.

    (if you didnt know, I have to play a female in games as every time I play male the game crashes to hell and never gets off the ground. eg. Maradons campaign.)
    *also would like to note that you didnt mention if psions were in or out, as they dont suck and manage to be less overpowered now.*

    Y.O.T.C fucked around with this message on 03-29-2005 at 03:56 AM.

    Pvednes
    Lynched
    posted 03-29-2005 06:35:47 AM
    Psionics can sit on a digit and swivel, swivel like the whooooores that they are.
    Pvednes
    Lynched
    posted 03-29-2005 08:00:25 AM
    For some more fundamentals, Starting at level 1, and it will be 3.0 edition.

    Stay tuned.

    `Doc
    Cold in an Alley
    posted 03-29-2005 08:40:33 AM
    I'm tossing around two concepts.

    One is a catperson ranger. He's conceptualized already from a previous game where I used him briefly. A fairly somber character overall, he's a practical survivor suited to the travelling life. This time around, he wouldn't have a language barrier.

    The other idea is a halfling sorcerer (the concept would work as a half-elf or gnome, but works better as a halfling), with an almost kender-like interest things that flash or sparkle.

    Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
    There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
    I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
    Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
    Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

    Katrinity
    Cookie Goddess!
    posted 03-29-2005 08:56:04 AM
    quote:
    `Doc had this to say about John Romero:
    I'm tossing around two concepts.

    One is a catperson ranger. He's conceptualized already from a previous game where I used him briefly. A fairly somber character overall, he's a practical survivor suited to the travelling life. This time around, he wouldn't have a language barrier.

    The other idea is a halfling sorcerer (the concept would work as a half-elf or gnome, but works better as a halfling), with an almost kender-like interest things that flash or sparkle.


    Your first idea is dangerously close to my own, and thusly, you shall be strangled tonight with a length of yarn from my ball of yarn..once I get through playing with it! <pounces and bats at the ball, purring>

    Cookie Goddess Supreme
    Furry Kitsune of Power!
    Pouncer of the 12th degree!
    "Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
    Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
    Pair and Rena
    Pancake
    posted 03-29-2005 11:08:54 AM
    Carefull doc, dont think she's joking =P

    As for me, I think I'll play a Kobolt!

    Smartest of them all, crazyest too, Master in the art of mixing stuff togetter! with results unexpected! Ahead of his time. Chaced away from his clan because he dared say the land was like a coconut (no no, he was Not chaced away because he blowed 1/2 the villige up, he will resent that!). This kobolt is to smart for his own good.

    Travelling with his trusty old bore (that he use to carry stuff). This kobolt is ready to try anything and wants to run arond the world... because he know his life shorten with ever day he stays at one place.

    his name you as? but TeandThea Whithseefor ... Naturaly ^_^

    (rogue with alchimy and lot of lore)

    `Doc
    Cold in an Alley
    posted 03-29-2005 11:55:36 AM
    quote:
    Katrinity needs to hitch a ride with a Vogon constructor fleet.
    Your first idea is dangerously close to my own, and thusly, you shall be strangled tonight with a length of yarn from my ball of yarn..once I get through playing with it! <pounces and bats at the ball, purring>
    Odd, I never pictured you as the somber ty-ghp *cough*wheeze*

    No worries. Two felines in the party may work well, but two feline rangers in the party would be a bit too homogeneous, unless we had shared elements in our histories (i.e. knew each other before the start of the adventure).

    Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
    There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
    I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
    Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
    Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

    Katrinity
    Cookie Goddess!
    posted 03-29-2005 12:15:06 PM
    Prehaps I shall be a feline rogue...<assassinates Doc>
    Cookie Goddess Supreme
    Furry Kitsune of Power!
    Pouncer of the 12th degree!
    "Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
    Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
    Pair and Rena
    Pancake
    posted 03-29-2005 12:20:58 PM
    Alas, Doc, for I knew him well.

    /me cleans Kats daggers

    Share his loot? I'll give you catnip ^_^

    Dr. Gee
    Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
    posted 03-29-2005 12:23:57 PM
    I'd do a Half-Orc Rogue unless there would be issues with the racial homogeny. Would Improved Unarmed Strike be available?

    Dr. Gee fucked around with this message on 03-29-2005 at 12:24 PM.

    Ruvyen
    Cartoon Broccoli Boy
    posted 03-29-2005 12:26:16 PM
    I'm kind of interested in the Ancient Fighter class. I doubt, of course, I'd be able to wear plate mail armour unless my character actually invented plate mail, but bronze chainmail's good too. It will also allow me to fully use a 15DEX for dual-weilding.

    For the time period, however, bronze chainmail would probably be very expensive... Hmm. Maybe a Barbarian would be a better choice for a Half-Orc.

    Thief: "I have come to a realisation. Dragons are not real in a general sense, but they may exist in certain specific cases."
    Fighter: "Like how quantum mechanics describes how subatomic particles can spontaneously pop into existence at random!"
    Thief: "No, that's stupid and stop making up words."
    --8-Bit Theater
    `Doc
    Cold in an Alley
    posted 03-29-2005 01:23:29 PM
    quote:
    See, your Ruvyen means your hair. So technically it's true.
    For the time period, however, bronze chainmail would probably be very expensive... Hmm. Maybe a Barbarian would be a better choice for a Half-Orc.
    I could see a bronze breastplate being practical.
    quote:
    Katrinity is attacking the darkness!
    Prehaps I shall be a feline rogue...<assassinates Doc>
    Kitty! (*bearhugs katrinity*)

    Now, to pick a gender for the halfling. Hmm, that's a toughie. The character concept works either way. A guy would fit better into the society, and by my usual gender rotation, I'm due to play one. Yet a female would be so much cuter! I can't decide

    Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
    There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
    I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
    Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
    Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

    Pair and Rena
    Pancake
    posted 03-29-2005 01:37:18 PM
    If Pve allows it, I'm gona actuly play a *GASP!* male ... kobolt... but still a male.. not much of a man but a male still!

    I feel so... durty >.<

    Katrinity
    Cookie Goddess!
    posted 03-29-2005 01:42:33 PM
    quote:
    When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Pair and Rena said:
    If Pve allows it, I'm gona actuly play a *GASP!* male ... kobolt... but still a male.. not much of a man but a male still!

    I feel so... durty >.<


    Kobold! Kobold!

    Cookie Goddess Supreme
    Furry Kitsune of Power!
    Pouncer of the 12th degree!
    "Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
    Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
    `Doc
    Cold in an Alley
    posted 03-29-2005 02:03:29 PM
    quote:
    Katrinity needs to hitch a ride with a Vogon constructor fleet.
    Kobold! Kobold!
    Kobold! Kodaring! Konuts!
    Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
    There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
    I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
    Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
    Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

    Pair and Rena
    Pancake
    posted 03-29-2005 02:54:59 PM
    Pvednes
    Lynched
    posted 03-30-2005 04:15:02 AM
    quote:
    Ruvyen had this to say about Knight Rider:
    I'm kind of interested in the Ancient Fighter class. I doubt, of course, I'd be able to wear plate mail armour unless my character actually invented plate mail, but bronze chainmail's good too. It will also allow me to fully use a 15DEX for dual-weilding.

    Three words.

    Early...Bronze...Age.

    For reference, Greek Hoplites were Late Bronze Age.

    In any case, when I get the time I'll detail out the Ancient Fighter and the Witch-doctor.

    Y.O.T.C
    No longer a Towel Girl
    posted 03-31-2005 02:58:59 AM
    leather armor is your friend!
    Ruvyen
    Cartoon Broccoli Boy
    posted 03-31-2005 12:06:42 PM
    quote:
    Y.O.T.C enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
    leather armor is your friend!

    *Impales YOTC on a spear before bashing him in the face with a wooden shield*

    Thief: "I have come to a realisation. Dragons are not real in a general sense, but they may exist in certain specific cases."
    Fighter: "Like how quantum mechanics describes how subatomic particles can spontaneously pop into existence at random!"
    Thief: "No, that's stupid and stop making up words."
    --8-Bit Theater
    Pair and Rena
    Pancake
    posted 03-31-2005 12:27:31 PM
    *Takes the wooden sheild from Ruvyen's hand befor he bashes Y.O.T.C and puts a big, pointy rock in his hand instead*

    Alaan
    posted 03-31-2005 05:54:45 PM
    So what would the top end of weaponry/armor be for those of us unfamiliar with weapons/armor of the era? A quick google search makes it seem like bronze breast plate would be doable, but not much beyond that. No clue on weaponry.

    Possible interest in a Scout type ranger. Lots in the stealth skills etc.

    Pvednes
    Lynched
    posted 04-01-2005 06:55:04 AM
    Mesolithic weapons: Mesolithic society consists entirely of hunter-gatherers. There is no possibility for true war in the mesolithic period, though violence has always existed.

    Handaxe: A handheld block of shaped flint, which was used as an all-purpose tool; a hammer, a wedge, and as a flint core off of which microliths were chipped. (A microlith is a small stone tool, such as a microblade [a sharp flint chip], barbs for spears, arrowheads, etc.)

    Spear: Either the heavy neanderthal vareity, or the superior but lighter Cro-Magnon spear.

    Spear-thrower: Similar to the bow, this was present in all mesolithic peoples.

    Simple bow: The bow was invented very early on in the mesolithic period, and were mostly constructed from Yew. They were surprisingly powerful, and required considerable strength to use effectively.

    Club: A big chunk o' wood.

    Other items: Whatever a man before any civilization could get his hands on that would function as a weapon. A big rock, perhaps, or a heavy animal jawbone.

    Neolithic weapons: With the development of simple agriculture; and hence permanent settlements, there began a practice of raids, and the defense against them. Hence was developed a warrior code. Roads and the very simplest of fortifications begin in this time, as was the construction of megaliths. (Menhirs, dolmens, stone rows, stone circles, taulas, orthostats, etc.)

    In addition to all mesolithic weapons:

    Sling: The simple sheperd's sling. Very cheap and very portable.

    Mace: An improvement on the club. Enjoyed a long period as the melee weapon of choice.

    Staff: A big, long bit of wood.

    Flint dagger: A big knife made of flint, with a handle of ash or yew. Is nonetheless very sharp.

    Flint axe: A true axe, with a head of flint.

    Composite bow: Made of bone or horn and yew, an improvement on the earlier version, except you have to be even stronger to use it.

    Longbow: Like the mesolithic simple bow, only bigger.

    Note: The late neolithic period opens the door for hardened hide/leather armour. This includes the breastplate, helmet, and hide shield. Simple wooden shields are also available.

    Chalcolithic weapons: Now comes the advent of metal. Very soft metals, such as copper, tin, silver and gold are workable by these peoples. There are no alloys yet. Tools also improve in lock step with weapons.

    In addition to the Neolithic weapons:
    Copper knife: Slight improvement over the flint vareity, though it won't keep an edge.
    Copper axe: As above.
    Copper-headed spear: Significant improvement over the flint variety, in that it could be forged into very vicious shapes.

    Early Bronze Age Weapons: Bronze is an alloy of copper and tin, which is much harder than copper and other natural materials. It allows for superior metal tools and weapons to become practical and mainstream.

    In addition or replacement to Neolithic-Chalcolithic weapons:
    Bronze Spear
    Bronze Short-sword
    Bronze dagger
    Bronze knife
    Bronze mace
    Bronze-tipped arrows
    etc.


    Note that considerable emphasis was placed on the piercing-slicing, because the advent of leather armour had ended the dominion of the mace.

    Ritual weapons!
    Obsidian dagger: A big shank of razor sharp black polished volcanic glass, as used by the Skull cult at Jericho!
    Bone wand: When witch-doctors point the bone, they use this.
    Garotte: More ritual sacrifice accessories
    Golden weapons: See above!
    etc

    Pvednes fucked around with this message on 12-18-2005 at 09:26 AM.

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