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Topic: Devil May Cry 2 - Wrap up. Very little spoilers, nothing plot wise
Oh shi...
what
posted 01-29-2003 08:53:30 PM
Well, 3 hours and 42 minutes of playtime later, I have beat disk 1 (which is Dante's scenario). Going to start Disk 2 (Lucia's scenario) tomorrow.

Bad Things About the Game

  • Targetting system - Blows so much ass it isn't funny. It isn't as much as you don't hit, it's that the priorities that it has is dirt awful. If you have two enemies, one who has 100 life and does 1 damage, and another that has 100 life and does 50 damage, it will always target the guy who does 1 damage.
  • Swords - There is no real bonus for using different weapons. You have your average weapon, your slightly shorter but slightly more damaging weapon, and your slightly longer and slighty weaker damaging weapon. That's it. No special perks or anything, that's how it is.
  • Difficulty - Alot easier overall than DMC1. There is a way to increase the difficulty but you have to beat both scenarios first.
  • Game Length - VERY VERY SHORT. I suggest renting the game twice, beat both scenarios, and then finding a used copy if you want to continue.

Good Things About the Game

  • All weapons are automatic. You don't have to go to Easy Automatic Mode like in DMC1 to keep your thumb from being in pain from pounding the hell out of Square.
  • All weapons are balanced nicely. No one weapon has a huge advantage over the other. It's all about what you think is cool.
  • L2 = switch guns without going into the menu
  • Running on walls + upside down blasting handguns + Coming down with a sword = very kickass
  • Air Combos

That's all I can think of. This game is a renter though, even though I bought it just because it was cheap as it goes for new games, and I collect games I like

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 01-29-2003 09:03:11 PM
Lucia's hotter than Trish was, so all good there.
Oh shi...
what
posted 01-29-2003 09:06:46 PM
Dammit, too late to edit.

  • You will never, ever, get an S ranking in Style. Ever.
  • Sakkra
    Office Linebacker
    posted 01-29-2003 09:08:57 PM
    No, you will never get an S ranking in time AND style. You must go for one or the other it seems.
    Comrade Snoota
    Communist
    Da, Tovarisch!
    posted 01-29-2003 09:43:17 PM
    quote:
    Everyone wondered WTF when The Big Stupid wrote:
    Bad Things About the Game
    • Swords - There is no real bonus for using different weapons.

    Good Things About the Game[list]

  • All weapons are balanced nicely. No one weapon has a huge advantage over the other.

  • ...

    You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
    Dr Cysa
    Angsty Mcangst
    posted 01-29-2003 09:45:44 PM
    quote:
    Frog said this about your mom:
    ...

    think he meant guns when he said weapons.

    I don't discriminate...I hate everyone.
    Mooj
    Scorned Fanboy
    posted 01-29-2003 09:47:46 PM
    I am actually seriously enjoying the game, I only have on real complaint, and is the plot. Specifically, there is none. Yes, that's right, it has less of a story than DMC 1 had. I wanna track down the writers and beat them within an inch of their life...

    Also, Lucia's a whiny little bitch, but she wasn't thrown in exact as eye candy, so I'm not too distraught over that.

    Bloodwraith
    Pancake
    posted 01-29-2003 09:52:23 PM
    Anyone post a Pic of this new girl?
    I thought it was Trish still.
    "shh, Can you hear the Raven?"-The Beholder
    Delphi Aegis
    Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
    posted 01-29-2003 09:54:07 PM
    Hmm.

    The missions are different, with similar path crossing by both parties. I.E. You fight the same boss here and there.

    It's making my head ache, though.. Too much PS2.. (Is that possible? Yes.)

    Maybe worth renting, I suppose.

    Also, Delid, did you notice ANY fucking difference in the powered up weapons? I got the main sword to like, three, and the pistols to two, but they just did the same thing.

    Mooj
    Scorned Fanboy
    posted 01-29-2003 10:03:03 PM
    The difference between powered up weapons and their basic forms is just in how much damage they do. Nothing more than that.
    Oh shi...
    what
    posted 01-29-2003 11:00:04 PM
    quote:
    Mooj thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
    The difference between powered up weapons and their basic forms is just in how much damage they do. Nothing more than that.
    Khyron
    Hello, my mushy friend...
    posted 01-30-2003 02:27:22 AM
    Does the game ever get hard? Seriously.

    Infested tanks look cool but you can walk up to them, beat the living shit out of them, and they don't even TOUCH you. The first boss (The gorilla thing) was a joke. The little monkey things that stand there and occasionally attack the air are a joke. The infested chopper hit me ONCE with the missiles and was pretty much a joke from that point on.

    I'm all for starting out easy and getting harder later on, but c'mon, I'm on level 7 and have yet to lose over half my HP, EVER.

    The new upgrade system isn't half as nice as the old one was. I liked being able to buy cool new abilities. Now the only thing I can buy is the usual orbs and upgrade my guns/sword to slightly more power... no buying Air Raid, no buying inferno, no fun shit like that =/

    All in all... DMC2 just ain't as good as the original was, so far. Does it get better later on?

    [ 01-30-2003: Message edited by: Khyron ]

    Mooj
    Scorned Fanboy
    posted 01-30-2003 03:15:43 AM
    quote:
    Khyron had this to say about Pirotess:
    Does the game ever get hard? Seriously.

    Infested tanks look cool but you can walk up to them, beat the living shit out of them, and they don't even TOUCH you. The first boss (The gorilla thing) was a joke. The little monkey things that stand there and occasionally attack the air are a joke. The infested chopper hit me ONCE with the missiles and was pretty much a joke from that point on.

    I'm all for starting out easy and getting harder later on, but c'mon, I'm on level 7 and have yet to lose over half my HP, EVER.

    The new upgrade system isn't half as nice as the old one was. I liked being able to buy cool new abilities. Now the only thing I can buy is the usual orbs and upgrade my guns/sword to slightly more power... no buying Air Raid, no buying inferno, no fun shit like that =/

    All in all... DMC2 just ain't as good as the original was, so far. Does it get better later on?



    The game can't get harder.. Not during your first play-through anyway. Remember, this game employs a self-adjusting difficulty system, keeping the game at a level where you can progress regardless of your skill.

    There are bosses that will take off more of your hitpoints, sure. Those come near the end, but also, some of the bosses near the end are just a walk in the park.

    Just wait until you beat it, then you can actually select what difficulty mode you want.

    Gydyon
    Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
    posted 01-30-2003 11:38:43 AM
    How's the second disk going?
    Gydyon
    Evercrest Lawyer

    Thinking about your posts
    (and billing you for it) since 2001

    Densetsu
    NOT DRYSART
    posted 01-30-2003 11:41:51 AM
    quote:
    Judge Gydyon had this to say about Captain Planet:
    How's the second disk going?

    Teehee.

    I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
    Gydyon
    Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
    posted 01-30-2003 11:43:12 AM
    quote:
    How.... Densetsu.... uughhhhhh:
    Teehee.

    you're ruining it.

    Gydyon
    Evercrest Lawyer

    Thinking about your posts
    (and billing you for it) since 2001

    Densetsu
    NOT DRYSART
    posted 01-30-2003 11:50:21 AM
    quote:
    The logic train ran off the tracks when Judge Gydyon said:
    you're ruining it.

    .eeheeT

    I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
    Khyron
    Hello, my mushy friend...
    posted 01-30-2003 07:18:49 PM
    quote:
    Mooj had this to say about Duck Tales:

    The game can't get harder.. Not during your first play-through anyway. Remember, this game employs a self-adjusting difficulty system, keeping the game at a level where you can progress regardless of your skill.

    Translation : You can beat it even if you're an insufferably terrible player who whined and bitched and moaned about how hard the first one was? *cough*Delphi*cough*

    Delphi Aegis
    Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
    posted 01-30-2003 07:21:34 PM
    quote:
    Khyron obviously shouldn't have said:
    Translation : You can beat it even if you're an insufferably terrible player who whined and bitched and moaned about how hard the first one was? *cough*Delphi*cough*

    Go fuck yourself, Khyron.

    Just because I wondered why the fuck I was getting killed every half a fucking second in the first one doesn't mean they made the second one for pansy asses.

    If you don't like the game, then say so, and tell the developers why. Otherwise, if you're not going to actually DO anything about it, and just whine and bitch and fucking moan, then do it to someone else. I'm tired of your elitist attitude with games.

    Khyron
    Hello, my mushy friend...
    posted 01-30-2003 07:34:51 PM
    quote:
    How.... Delphi Aegis.... uughhhhhh:
    Go fuck yourself, Khyron.

    Just because I wondered why the fuck I was getting killed every half a fucking second in the first one doesn't mean they made the second one for pansy asses.

    If you don't like the game, then say so, and tell the developers why. Otherwise, if you're not going to actually DO anything about it, and just whine and bitch and fucking moan, then do it to someone else. I'm tired of your elitist attitude with games.


    I did say so. I said that it's so easy I could probably beat it one-handed (Which I honestly think I'll try tonight...). It's not just easy. It's GODAWFUL easy. Easier-than-FF8 easy. I plan on beating it just so I can access the difficulty controls and bump them up as high as they go, in the hopes that it'll actually make the game a bit of a challenge.

    [ 01-30-2003: Message edited by: Khyron ]

    Comrade Snoota
    Communist
    Da, Tovarisch!
    posted 01-30-2003 07:37:58 PM
    Speaking of Khyron and elitist attitudes with games! IT'S STORY TIME!

    So there we were in Gameworks! I popped my card in to play some game for the first time. I think it was Capcom vs SNK. Or Marvel. One of those Capcom vs games.

    Khyron strolls up next to me and pops his card in and starts immediately bragging about he's going to kick my ass!

    "But Khyron!", I said, "This is my first time playing! A three year old mashing buttons could kick my ass the first time around!"

    He simply laughed evily like a maniac and said, "I'm going to do this kick ass combo that's going to kill you in one shot once I get my power bar up!"

    Needless to say, I was scared. I began to look for a towel to throw in. Or a chance to blind side Khyron. I'm a big guy and he's a little scrawny thing, I could take him out before he got his characters power bar up!

    But alas, before I could put my plan into motion he filled his power bar and did his SUPER DUPER MOVE THAT WAS GOING TO FINISH ME IN ONE HIT!

    And uppercutted me. Once.

    THE END!

    You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
    Delphi Aegis
    Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
    posted 01-30-2003 07:44:46 PM
    quote:
    We were all impressed when Khyron wrote:
    I did say so. I said that it's so easy I could probably beat it one-handed (Which I honestly think I'll try tonight...). It's not just easy. It's GODAWFUL easy. Easier-than-FF8 easy. I plan on beating it just so I can access the difficulty controls and bump them up as high as they go, in the hopes that it'll actually make the game a bit of a challenge.

    Then do so and quit whining to us about it.
    Capcom did a smart thing by making the start of the game easier. It appeals to a wider audience, and people tend to keep the game rather then return it within a few days of getting their ass handed to them. Yeah, I hope it gets harder as well, but at least I can enjoy some good ol' fashioned fights.

    Comrade Snoota
    Communist
    Da, Tovarisch!
    posted 01-30-2003 07:50:06 PM
    Games that start out hard suck. There needs to be a natural progression from "my three year old could do this!" to "HOLY GOD WHEN WILL THE PAIN STOP!"

    Jedi Knight II is a good example of this gone horribly wrong. I almost gave up on that game because the first few levels were so fucking hard. But then the later levels were so easy after you became a Jedi.

    You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
    Khyron
    Hello, my mushy friend...
    posted 01-30-2003 07:51:26 PM
    quote:
    Frog was listening to Cher while typing:
    Speaking of Khyron and elitist attitudes with games! IT'S STORY TIME!

    So there we were in Gameworks! I popped my card in to play some game for the first time. I think it was Capcom vs SNK. Or Marvel. One of those Capcom vs games.

    Khyron strolls up next to me and pops his card in and starts immediately bragging about he's going to kick my ass!

    "But Khyron!", I said, "This is my first time playing! A three year old mashing buttons could kick my ass the first time around!"

    He simply laughed evily like a maniac and said, "I'm going to do this kick ass combo that's going to kill you in one shot once I get my power bar up!"

    Needless to say, I was scared. I began to look for a towel to throw in. Or a chance to blind side Khyron. I'm a big guy and he's a little scrawny thing, I could take him out before he got his characters power bar up!

    But alas, before I could put my plan into motion he filled his power bar and did his SUPER DUPER MOVE THAT WAS GOING TO FINISH ME IN ONE HIT!

    And uppercutted me. Once.

    THE END!


    Yeah, I was sadf I was trying to pull off Shun Goku Satsu with Akuma but I screwed up the joystick movement part of it. (I think I pressed it too fast and only did one motion instead of two)

    Delphi Aegis
    Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
    posted 01-30-2003 07:51:35 PM
    JK2 was an example of how a game should work in reverse. Heh.
    Khyron
    Hello, my mushy friend...
    posted 01-30-2003 07:57:32 PM
    quote:
    Check out the big brain on Delphi Aegis!
    Then do so and quit whining to us about it.
    Capcom did a smart thing by making the start of the game easier. It appeals to a wider audience, and people tend to keep the game rather then return it within a few days of getting their ass handed to them. Yeah, I hope it gets harder as well, but at least I can enjoy some good ol' fashioned fights.

    You're right, how horrible and evil of me to be talking about how pathetically easy the game is on a thread dedicated to the game, and how much I preferred the challenge the prequel to this one had. Bad Khyron! Bad!

    As for the first game starting out too difficult, the only hard part in the beginning was the first fight with Phantom, which I do admit takes some practice mainly because the playing field has those annoying columns (Fighting him in the open is much easier; he's not as tough as the layout of the stage makes him), but from then on it's a breeze until the later parts of the game where it REALLY gets challenging. They stuck one hard fight at the beginning, then after that fight the difficulty adjusted itself more accordingly.

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