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Topic: America sucks?
Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 08-17-2002 11:41:53 PM
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 11:42:27 PM
Canada sucks, but all already knew that.
nem-x
posted 08-17-2002 11:42:40 PM
Ozimander
$$$$$$$$$$$
posted 08-17-2002 11:44:40 PM
Pooped in your...poopy poo! HA!

Cthulhu

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 08-17-2002 11:44:41 PM
It made me laugh.

A tad dramatic.

Super Kagrama
ROFLELFOLOL!!!11!1 YUO CAN'T RAED MY POSTSSE!@!11
posted 08-17-2002 11:44:48 PM
Not all Canadians are like this. Really.
i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Oh shi...
what
posted 08-17-2002 11:45:41 PM
Yes we are! You all suck! See sig!
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 08-17-2002 11:45:58 PM
quote:
Super Kagrama had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Not all Canadians are like this. Really.

You being the obvious exception. Altough I would like to see that letter kagrama-ized.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 08-17-2002 11:46:42 PM
Just goes to show you that there are idiots in every country. I like most Canadians but this guy is an idiot..
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 08-17-2002 11:48:33 PM
can we say ANGST?
Maradon!
posted 08-17-2002 11:49:40 PM
ROFL!

This guy should write a book! It's like reading JeffK only spelled right, and funnier!

He should tone it down a bit though. I mean, who's going to believe someone could be THAT stupid?

[ 08-17-2002: Message edited by: Maradön² ]

Archon
Pancake
posted 08-17-2002 11:51:47 PM
Well america has kinda lost what it used to be, but DAMN, this guy is insane. I like bush, i think he's funny( not like jokes and stuff but..eh you know.) Frankly i think this guy wrote this after reading every single tabloid issued in the past 8 months and drinking 1,987,654,249 pots of coffee. It's only a matter of time before canada becomes the 51st state anyway. Then our problems will be thiers too! HAH!
Maradon!
posted 08-18-2002 12:00:52 AM
quote:
Archon had this to say about Cuba:
Well america has kinda lost what it used to be...

I get a kick out of the people who love to talk about how shitty the world is but don't seem to have the stones to do anything about changing thier lives.

By my thinking, if you think something is wrong, but haven't even tried to fix it, then you should really just shut the fuck up because you know jack shit.

Not speaking to Archon of course, but rather the author of that spectacular piece of comedy.

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 08-18-2002 12:06:52 AM
quote:
Maradön² was naked while typing this:
I get a kick out of the people who love to talk about how shitty the world is but don't seem to have the stones to do anything about changing thier lives.

By my thinking, if you think something is wrong, but haven't even tried to fix it, then you should really just shut the fuck up because you know jack shit.

Not speaking to Archon of course, but rather the author of that spectacular piece of comedy.


If I had the monies, I'd move to Ireland!

First I need the monies. Well I have a job, and If I didn't have this college loan payment, I'd beable to save it more. Hmm..

Get a better job. The job market here is shit. HMmm.. go to college, I'm on the waiting list for next year... (omgs halp the dotcoms have decided to make something else of themselves!!)

*bangs head on desk* I just wanna move to Ireland!!

Peter
Pancake
posted 08-18-2002 12:10:39 AM
This guy is clearly a moron, why even publish crap like that?

I like how they put the opening as the articale on earth freindly tech. Which is a total bull. I wonder who many people even bother to think how much oil is actully used for gas and how much more is used in plastics and the Fucking ass load of other petroleum products.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 08-18-2002 12:10:56 AM
quote:

Or is this just the raving lunacy of the conspiracy nut?


Yes.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

UBT
Pancake
posted 08-18-2002 12:12:48 AM
Sounds like this guy has a serious case of Penis envy.
Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 08-18-2002 12:22:47 AM
i didn't really read any of it.

is it as stupid as it sounds?

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 08-18-2002 12:25:48 AM
quote:
Kloie had this to say about Punky Brewster:
i didn't really read any of it.

is it as stupid as it sounds?


Yes.

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 08-18-2002 12:31:18 AM
Yeah yeah yeah... just because he voiced his opinion..

I mean what if he had some valid points? HMM?? We're to self centered in our own Patriotism to even give him that benifit.


oh and before you like to pring in those tourches..

/sarcism off

=P

MadCat the 2nd
Pancake
posted 08-18-2002 12:35:17 AM
*puts on his asbestos suit once more*

I think the guy has a point. Or two. Or three. Maybe a bit on the dramatic side, but most of it is valid.

*shrug* feel free to flame me about that; but the guy's right. In just about every way too...

And my opinion? You all know it - isn't it strange though that that opinion of mine is shared by most other Europeans?

Guess it is, if you never open your mind and read, or learn for that matter. But hey, accept whatever the media and your schools feed you

*wanders off*

[edit: ispell to the rescue!]

[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: MadCat the 2nd ]

"Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and bitch-slap that motherfucker upside the head."

ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl

Maradon!
posted 08-18-2002 12:36:41 AM
quote:
MadCat the 2nd painfully thought these words up:
*puts on his asbestos suit once more*

I think the guy has a point. Or two. Or three. Maybe a bit on the dramatic side, but most of it is valid.


Yeah, but you've already established yourself as a mindless bigot, so you're opinion counts for precisely nothing.

Just like this clown.

[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Maradön² ]

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 08-18-2002 12:39:11 AM
It's over dramatic and because of that he loses any credibitly he may have had and it is to hard to take that seriously because I'm to busy snickering at the drama of it all.

It's like a generic flame letter...just insert the name of whatever country and tada...there ya go.

And it is true MadCat, you make your dislike of America very obvious. At least, that is how I have managed to read your views.

I'm not a fan either way, but I must admit I was waiting for you to enter and say how this guy was right.

I edited because I was to lazy to make another post when I just made this one.

[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: ImNotTrent Inc. ]

MadCat the 2nd
Pancake
posted 08-18-2002 12:39:33 AM
quote:
Maradön² stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Yeah, but you've already established yourself as a mindless bigot, so you're opinion counts for precisely nothing.

Just like this clown.


That would be your.. not you're. Pay attention much during English class?

And I see... so, everyone who's against the USA is a mindless bigot?

Fact is, I lived in the US for about 3 years, so whatever I do end up saying is based on what I've seen during my stay.

You, however, Maradon - you need to stop hugging your bandwagon patriottism and learn. But I'm afraid that'll be too big a task for you, seeing as how you can't even properly use grammar.

"Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, but it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and bitch-slap that motherfucker upside the head."

ben(at)netmastering(dot)nl

Maradon!
posted 08-18-2002 12:43:14 AM
quote:
MadCat the 2nd wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
And I see... so, everyone who's against the USA is a mindless bigot?

No, just you and everyone like you.

quote:
Fact is, I lived in the US for about 3 years, so whatever I do end up saying is based on what I've seen during my stay.

That, and the ridiculous, ignorant bias that you seem so proud of.

Your pissy little gradeschool grammar attacks were impressive, though. Just like every other brainless anti-america bigot who thinks they know everything, when challenged you always resort to the cheap shot to get off without having to actually present any evidence.

Archon
Pancake
posted 08-18-2002 12:49:18 AM
At least our national legilature doesn't sound like a bunch of first graders at a birthday party with too much sugar.
Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 08-18-2002 01:05:24 AM
quote:
MadCat the 2nd thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
That would be your.. not you're. Pay attention much during English class?

...

That wasn't even clever.

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 08-18-2002 01:22:32 AM
quote:
Aanicat had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
If I had the monies, I'd move to Ireland!

First I need the monies. Well I have a job, and If I didn't have this college loan payment, I'd beable to save it more. Hmm..

Get a better job. The job market here is shit. HMmm.. go to college, I'm on the waiting list for next year... (omgs halp the dotcoms have decided to make something else of themselves!!)

*bangs head on desk* I just wanna move to Ireland!!


Think you can fit in a suitcase? Smuggling people sounds fun, and I plan on moving to Britain anyway.

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 08-18-2002 01:24:46 AM
I like Canada. I don't think I'd really feel at home anywhere else. I like our politics, our health care, our cities, our culutre (and the fact that it's just different enough from America's to seem like our little secret). While America is similar, I really do prefer my country.

We do have our share of idiots, though, and that guy is one. This also includes everyone but people I know who live in Toronto.

America could be doing better, yes. A LOT better. But so could we.

I'm not going to point any fingers until I'm ready to have them pointed back.

No senseless bashing of countries allowed. Whether it be America or Canada.



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 08-18-2002 01:26:26 AM
This is the part where I go pick apart many of this guy's points, and laugh as I do.

(Oh ya, I just spent the last 10 minutes reading parts of this to Pesco when he wondered why I was laughing hysterically.)

Highly opinionated content ahead:

quote:
Dark, evil operations run rampant in the secret corners of your government institutions

If I am not mistaken, this is a problem with ALL governments.

You know, no one likes to share, especially share power.

quote:
A dubiously constituted government pursues war at will anywhere on earth, discussing nuclear options that become points for cheerful chatter over lunch.

1: There is a difference between having a 'living' constitution that can be interpreted for individual situations, and having a dubious constitution.

2: Ever read about a murder or something, and then talk about that at lunch? Ever talk about how so-and-so did such and such to so-and-so? Its gossip. Just because we talk about world affairs and our own military actions at lunch doesnt mean we're monsters. If anything, we're rather informed.

quote:
You have become a nation of monsters, America. Hypocrites. Murderers. Fools

You, sir, need to get laid. Very badly. as in, now. I'm afraid, though, that whatever 2 bit whore you get will run screaming into the street once you start in on her morals, or something. Either that or she'll laugh herself to cardiac arrest. Looky, your halo's tilted.

quote:
Your constitution is a shambles thanks to "national security" measures resulting from what might well be U.S.-government-sanctioned terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington D.C.

1:If I remember correctly, our constitution is in an airtight glass case that, in times of emergency, will be lowered into a storm shelter or sorts. That means, that if America is nuked to high heavens, darnit, our constitution will survive.

2:Ehhhh.... where did he get the idea that our government would nuke 3000 people, and the World Trade Center, our economic head?

quote:
Never mind that earth-friendly technology already exists to once and for all end dependence on oil, coal and nuclear energy from huge, out-of-control utilities and corporations

Oh, and I suppose you live in a house that is soley powered by the sun, and your car runs on water, and you have never, ever taken a piss? Cause, you know, urine in water makes it undrinkable.

I bet your farts smell like roses, too.

quote:
At the same time, you stand by as the Israelis' secular Zionists--whom you support through the supply of arms and money--slaughter untold numbers of innocents in the West Bank, then blame the Palestinians for bringing the terror upon themselves.

When supporting allies in a war, you may not always like it, but there are those little things called treaties. You know, they make it so you help people when they need it? Yeah.

And its either support the Israeli murderers, or the Palestinian murderers. We like our Israeli murderers, thank you.

quote:
With your government's support, crooked multinationals like Monsanto buy up the world's water supplies, and take possession of the world's vegetation through Frankenstein technology already known to cause illness.

Does Monsanto have a secret evil base next to an active volcano on a secluded island somewhere? Cause you're making this guy sound like a classic cartoon villain.

quote:
It has long been on the bandwagon to foist genetically altered food on the Guinea Pigs of the country--

Wow, they started genetic experiments on my food? ONOS!@#!~ I cannot eat my taco! It has eyeballs!

quote:
Your Pentagon cannot account for trillions in lost dollars.

Last I checked, the Pentagon didnt have much to do with Fed reserves more than they did with National Security.

quote:
How is it that private banks are responsible for issuing your currency?

Uhhh... they are privately owned, but our banks are federally regulated.

quote:
By decree, this was supposed to be the responsibility of your government, which could create its own currency without charging interest.

It does. But you forget, banks dont create money. They just hold it for you. Dolt.

quote:

READ AT YOUR OWN RISK:
Open Letter to America from a Canadian
Never mind that earth-friendly technology already exists to once and for all end dependence on oil, coal and nuclear energy from huge, out-of-control utilities and corporations. You would rather pay through the nose for your insecure comforts, wouldn't you America, and make others pay with their blood.
by W.R. McDougall
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Go get your ten-billionth burger, America. Fatten your already fat asses with bacteria-and-hormone-ridden meat and do nothing as you sit stupefied before your mind-numbing television sets awaiting the next episode of sad families being humiliated on "Cops."

Dear America:

And so it has come to this. Your once-great nation has fallen into madness, an affliction of mass denial that brings shivers up the spines of millions outside your borders. Yours is a sick nation. But most of you carry on as though nothing at all is the matter.

Dark, evil operations run rampant in the secret corners of your government institutions. A dubiously constituted government pursues war at will anywhere on earth, discussing nuclear options that become points for cheerful chatter over lunch. Your military and intelligence agencies employ terrorist tactics around the globe even as they insist that such tactics are necessary in the fight against terrorism.

You have become a nation of monsters, America. Hypocrites. Murderers. Fools.

Your constitution is a shambles thanks to "national security" measures resulting from what might well be U.S.-government-sanctioned terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington D.C., covert provocations designed to justify a malevolent, poisonous, oil-based military economy.

Never mind that earth-friendly technology already exists to once and for all end dependence on oil, coal and nuclear energy from huge, out-of-control utilities and corporations. You would rather pay through the nose for your insecure comforts, wouldn't you America, and make others pay with their blood.

At the same time, you stand by as the Israelis' secular Zionists--whom you support through the supply of arms and money--slaughter untold numbers of innocents in the West Bank, then blame the Palestinians for bringing the terror upon themselves. (True, there are abominable Arab suicide bombers in Israel's midst. But are they not driven to madness and desperation by your infernal support of international terrorist politics?)

As I write these words, you support a nation run by a convicted murderer by the name of Ariel Sharon who with impunity is carrying out war crimes as cruel and horrendous as those of other sadistic tyrants in history. And you say, in your utter cynicism, 'When will these Palestinians bring this war to an end?'

You recklessly wage combat on other fronts, too. At home, your War on Drugs is a disastrous 30-year folly--a gigantic con game designed to benefit lethal cartels, corrupt politicians and menacing intelligence agencies across the planet.....

With your government's support, crooked multinationals like Monsanto buy up the world's water supplies, and take possession of the world's vegetation through Frankenstein technology already known to cause illness.

Does the FDA care about any of this? It does not. It has long been on the bandwagon to foist genetically altered food on the Guinea Pigs of the country--including every man, woman and child on America's increasingly toxic soil.

You are a nation of suckers, America, to be bled dry of your hard-earned pay through outrageous bank schemes, Wall Street rip-offs and fake government budget grabs. Your Pentagon cannot account for trillions in lost dollars.

Does this bother you? Not in the least.

Your whole economy is controlled by what is for the most part ravenous, international private banking interests in the form of The Federal Reserve, which with your government's consent leads you down the garden path to certain financial ruin thanks to a national debt you will never be able to repay.

How is it that private banks are responsible for issuing your currency? How is it that they are allowed to charge ridiculous interest rates on what they issue? By decree, this was supposed to be the responsibility of your government, which could create its own currency without charging interest.

Do you realize your congress could dismiss these banks in an instant if it so wished? But don't ever count on it. More important matters are pressing. The upcoming election needs investment.

These very same money men are the ones who, through unmonitored and unrepresentative world committees, are driving countries like Argentina into hopeless debt and social upheaval. These greedy overlords are creating strife and suffering on a scale too tragic for words in nation after nation. Just look at Africa.


Yes. You found us out. We, in our sadistic glee, have thrown Argentina into hidious debt. (Nevermind that the only reason you can get into hidious debt is not paying it back) Oh, and Africa? We personally sucked it dry. We made sure that we would be plagued every day by annoying commercials about Ethiopian children who have no shoes. Its all our fault.

quote:
Your president is a white-collar thug, a hypocrite who through his actions celebrates war, repression and greed even as he gives lip service to peace, freedom and justice.

You know...

The clause in the Pledge of Allegiance, "Liberty and Justice for All" refers only to American citizens. Bush is in charge of AMERICAN freedoms and peace, not for that of other countries. Sounds harsh, but its true.

quote:
George's ruthless father, either, a Bin-Laden cohort and friend to criminals and killers

Yeah. Bush Sr. knew, just knew that 20 years from when he trained Bin Laden that he would attack us. And he also KNEW that Bin Laden would become what he became. Its a little known secret that all American presidents are psychic.

quote:
Go get your ten-billionth burger, America. Fatten your already fat asses with bacteria-and-hormone-ridden meat and do nothing as you sit stupefied before your mind-numbing television sets awaiting the next episode of sad families being humiliated on "Cops."


Oh, the obesity thing again. Well, my answer: We have the cash to be fat. So we are a rich nation. And you know what? I dont like COPs. Law & Order is much more interesting, thank you.

quote:
Enron, or the murder of one of its top executives, is underway.

He committed suicide, dummy.

quote:
FBI and intelligence agencies plotted the murder of President John F. Kennedy?

Hee hee hee.... funny man. You know you're weak when you have to bring up a lovenest of conspiracy theorists.

quote:
Your best investigative journalists are fired from their jobs and ignored

I bet you're one of those people we fired, and now you're disgruntled. Thats it. Nevermind that you're such and idiot we wouldnt have hired you in the first place.

quote:
The most honest and conscientious political leader in the country, Ralph Nader, is a powerless, near-invisible curiosity easily side-lined by hired goons.

Dude, Nader is a crackpot who wants to legalize pot and other illegal drugs. By the way, shouldnt he be dead yet? The guy's been there FOREVER!

quote:
If you had your druthers, you would right now gather your courage, take to the streets and march on Washington D.C in the millions

....why? I have yet to see a reason to seige our country's capitol?

quote:
I can only imagine what additional horrors your shadow government might be planning in what will surely be an attempt to justify militarism and totalitarianism on a universal scale.

Oh, now we're totalitarian and militant at the same time? Funny, I thought we were a democracy.

After all, you're butt-buddy Nader isnt in power, so we're obviously a capitolistic, unfair democracy.

-----------------------------

Yeah, so I quoted the entire article, almost. I needed something to wind down on after work, and this was it.

Thanks.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 08-18-2002 01:28:33 AM
Wow, reading over it, I realize DID quote the entire thing.

Az I am lazy, I do not feel like fixing it. Too bad.

I'm being a lazy, hypnotized American.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
nem-x
posted 08-18-2002 01:32:10 AM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Azakias said this:
Wow, reading over it, I realize DID quote the entire thing.

Az I am lazy, I do not feel like fixing it. Too bad.

I'm being a lazy, hypnotized American.


Who to the what?

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 08-18-2002 01:36:23 AM
In regards to your Nader comment - I won't go into the political matters, as I have not the effort for the ensuing battle that would most likely take place. In response to the latter of the comment, howere, I respond with two words; Strom Thurman.
Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 08-18-2002 01:42:21 AM
I'll be honest.. the last time I bothered looking at Nader was in 10th grade when I had to do a report on him.

I suppose his views might have changed since then.

Still, shouldnt he be dead by now? He's a dinosaur!

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 08-18-2002 01:44:12 AM
quote:
Azakias had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I'll be honest.. the last time I bothered looking at Nader was in 10th grade when I had to do a report on him.

I suppose his views might have changed since then.

Still, shouldnt he be dead by now? He's a dinosaur!


He's not that old. Not nearly as old as Strom Thurman :P

He's only around 65-75 if I remember right.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 08-18-2002 01:45:23 AM
I will take this opportunity to point out that A) I personally know six Canadian nationals that all thought America got what was coming to it on 9/11, saying that "it showed us that we're not king of the world".

I guess they meant "unassailable" instead of "king of the world?" Whatever.

And

B) Anti-semitism is at an all-time high since WW2 not only in America, but all throughout Europe. I read in the New York Times that of 1000 Americans surveyed, 17% were openly anti-semitic, up from 12% ten years ago. A similar increase was noted when the 1000 Europeans from ten different countries were surveyed.

Words can sting, but they are merely words.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 08-18-2002 01:46:40 AM
All I remember is that he's been doing the political thing for about as long as I have been alive.

Besides, my dad's a dinosaur and he's only 51.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 08-18-2002 01:50:12 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Azakias wrote:
All I remember is that he's been doing the political thing for about as long as I have been alive.

Besides, my dad's a dinosaur and he's only 51.


Hehehe. He started early.

Boy did the Far Right just hate "Unsafe at Any Speed"

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 08-18-2002 01:54:42 AM
Wow, that guy sounds like every maniacal RPG villain I've ever seen.

Hypocrites! Murderers! Fools!

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-18-2002 02:34:23 AM
quote:
Azakias got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Wow, they started genetic experiments on my food? ONOS!@#!~ I cannot eat my taco! It has eyeballs!



Roofles.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
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