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Topic: What feeling or emotion does this picture instill in you?
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 08-03-2002 03:04:34 AM

In case you can't read it due to the size of the pic, this is the cover for the first published collection of PvP Online strips.

You have to wonder, how are you supposed to feel when you look at this? It's like driving past a horrible road accident involving a bus full of Klansmen, a fuel truck and a small puppy that wandered onto the road and the puppy gets the worst of it.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 08-03-2002 03:06:03 AM
Straight. Boring.
Nothing amazing happens here.
Only the ordinary.
Vise the Stompy
Title now 100% ass free!
posted 08-03-2002 03:06:51 AM
Makes me want to get something to eat from Wendys.
Squire Twitch
Pancake
posted 08-03-2002 03:07:25 AM
Hate.. Blind, Seething Hate.

The kind of hate that burns with an undying fervor.

You know.. like, when your mother in law sets a bear trap off on your testes, and you cant shoot her because your wife would pout, and you wouldnt get any after your balls healed, THAT kind of hate.

My parents just came back from a planet where the dominant lifeform had no bilateral symmetry, and all I got was this stupid F-Shirt
Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 08-03-2002 03:08:18 AM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Squire Twitch was all like:
Hate.. Blind, Seething Hate.

The kind of hate that burns with an undying fervor.

You know.. like, when your mother in law sets a bear trap off on your testes, and you cant shoot her because your wife would pout, and you wouldnt get any after your balls healed, THAT kind of hate.


...Holy shit, dude.

Nothing amazing happens here.
Only the ordinary.
Squire Twitch
Pancake
posted 08-03-2002 03:11:00 AM
Well, he wanted emotion....
My parents just came back from a planet where the dominant lifeform had no bilateral symmetry, and all I got was this stupid F-Shirt
Led
*kaboom*
posted 08-03-2002 03:12:14 AM
Very poorly planned and implemented. The black and white of the strips easily draws the eye away from the girl, the focus of the picture. Which makes it visually confusing and not very interesting at all.
Squire Twitch
Pancake
posted 08-03-2002 03:15:12 AM
I disagree.. The black and white of the strips, only accentuates the poorly drawn, and silly concept of the human body the artist has concieved. It draws the eye, but to nothing worthy of such attention.
My parents just came back from a planet where the dominant lifeform had no bilateral symmetry, and all I got was this stupid F-Shirt
Maradon!
posted 08-03-2002 03:15:15 AM
quote:
SuchiiMarine! had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Which makes it visually confusing and not very interesting at all.

Sorta like the comic itself

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 08-03-2002 03:18:21 AM
"What the flaming FUCK?"

One: that picture looks horrible. The strips look like they're printed on cardboard and just lobbed haphazardly; very little/no actual dimension to it. Hair looks like it's posessed.

Two: What the FUCK...?!



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 08-03-2002 03:34:50 AM
quote:
Kegwen 2.0 attempted to be funny by writing:
Straight. Boring.

Pretty much.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Naota Nandaba
Don't ask me about any goddamned bannings!
posted 08-03-2002 03:35:46 AM
quote:
Zephyer had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Pretty much.

Nothing amazing happens here.
Only the ordinary.
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 08-03-2002 03:36:01 AM
Bad...

just bad.

I really hate how there is just one shadow in the entire picture.

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 08-03-2002 03:40:03 AM
I cringed. The cover suckeths, and I dispise the artist. Not only that, the comic is a sell out =P
Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 08-03-2002 03:43:36 AM
Disgust. Though not at the style of the pic, mind you. More along the lines of what Suchii said.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 08-03-2002 03:48:14 AM
quote:
Aanicat had this to say about Cuba:
Not only that, the comic is a sell out =P

In what way?

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 08-03-2002 03:50:08 AM
just read through them...

hen go ask Spy.com why the ditched his comics...

MoonBaby
Pancake
posted 08-03-2002 03:52:01 AM
All I can Say is Wow. A really bad attempt at softcore pron.
Fighting Evil by Moonlight, Winning love by daylight!!
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 08-03-2002 03:52:47 AM
His comic was always bland. Now he's making money off of it. *shrug*

And what does a Martha Stewart web site have to do with web comics?

[ 08-03-2002: Message edited by: JooJooFlop ]

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-03-2002 04:11:55 AM
Well clearly it's a take on the "Indecent Proposal" scene where the woman's on the bed with the money. Or it may well be that he was trying to go for the rose petals thing from "American Beauty" but since I tend to see him as more interested in making a living...I'm leaning towards the Indecent Proposal scene

My biggest gripe with the guy is that he took a shot at other artists. Said something really inappropriate, based on the fact that he himself is out to make money doing his strip.

Keep in mind there's nothing wrong with that. Quite a few people who we all loved the work of made money by doing comics. And some of them were elitist bastards too. Calvin and Hobbes' Watterson was an elitist "artiste" snob, for instance.

But at least he didn't take shots at fellow strip writers all that often, and even then didn't call them posers or deluded or anything. Plus there's the quality of his work. When you're good at something, there's a certain right you have to be snobbish. Calvin & Hobbes was a great strip. I would read it every day. PvP? Eh...I go through months where I don't read it.

I'd rather go buy some Fox Trot comics, to be honest.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 08-03-2002 08:08:36 AM
Possibly because foxtrot tends to be witty and amusing 80+% of the time easily, while PvP might be giggle worthy once a week?
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
nem-x
posted 08-03-2002 09:51:42 AM
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 08-03-2002 09:54:09 AM
More like this

Whenever I think about people that might actually follow his comic

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Meridian
Pancake
posted 08-03-2002 10:41:50 AM
Bleh.

He Who Shall Not Be Named (except by the initials SK) has been on my shit list for over a year. He has a real crappy attitude towards the people who do/did support him, and he treats the people who maintain/moderate and visit his forums like crap.

He's an elitist snob and I wouldn't go five minutes out of my way to meet him.

**************************
Meridian Ascendant
Lacking a witty sig-phrase since 2001.
Gikk
SCA babe!!!
posted 08-03-2002 11:31:36 AM
Since when are people on dimensional?

... Shading if your friend. O.o

Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 08-03-2002 01:39:48 PM
quote:
Gikkwiny's account was hax0red to write:
Since when are people on dimensional?

... Shading if your friend. O.o


Depends on what your going for. Sometimes shading is inappropriate. Often times it's over used. Other times it's under used.

In this cas it was underused becuase of the effect he was trying to pull off.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Moffles
Pancake
posted 08-03-2002 01:41:56 PM
Grrr *foams at the mouth*
"Got some dark desire? Love to play with fire? Why not let it rip? Live a little bit!"
Azymyth
Not gay; just weird
posted 08-03-2002 02:00:11 PM
My reaction: Nappy chick trying to look sexy and failing miserably. Next please.
I suffer from CRS: Can't Remember Shit.

Sig pic done by the very talented SJen!

Skaw
posted 08-03-2002 06:09:15 PM
My reaction: This is probably the only way Scott Kurtz could sell something that he made. Hell, his comics free and I don't even read it cause its pretty crappy.
Fizodeth
an unflattering title
posted 08-03-2002 06:46:57 PM
Where's the boobs.
Ferrel
Fippy's VP
posted 08-03-2002 07:12:23 PM
It makes me feel like the artist is teasing alot of mens into thinking she'll be naked in the comic. And she wont be!

[ 08-03-2002: Message edited by: Ferrel ]

Ferrel!
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 08-03-2002 07:13:59 PM
Kurtz lost his touch. He got hopped up on popularity too much to notice that his comics suck, and he's too arrogant to see it.

It's a shame the geniuses that are John Kovalic and Aaron Williams had to join with him in a printing press

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 08-03-2002 08:26:47 PM
looks more like that Schene in American Beauty

and it makes me laugh and giggle

she looks like shit muh liek the rest of the archives of that stupid comic

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-03-2002 08:32:09 PM
quote:
Elvish Crack Piper painfully thought these words up:
Possibly because foxtrot tends to be witty and amusing 80+% of the time easily, while PvP might be giggle worthy once a week?

Precisely.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 08-03-2002 09:13:29 PM
Vomitous disgust.

Oh, and I think that's really a guy in that picture. Mick Jagger to be exact (note lips).

[Edit]: fixed a word.

[ 08-03-2002: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 08-03-2002 09:27:30 PM
Well, I *like* that comic.

But that picture just looks odd.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 08-03-2002 11:27:29 PM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote:
Well, I *like* that comic.

But that picture just looks odd.


That's pretty much how I feel. I mean, is it supposed to be sexy? Funny? I dunno.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 08-04-2002 12:01:13 AM
It's hard to be aroused by a cartoon.
Vise the Stompy
Title now 100% ass free!
posted 08-04-2002 12:09:36 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when King Parcelan said:
It's hard to be aroused by a cartoon.

Tell that to the Japanese
Addy
posted 08-04-2002 12:20:43 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why King Parcelan wrote:
It's hard to be aroused by a cartoon.

Agreed. Personally, I never really liked Kurtz's style of drawing - save for when he first started. It always struck me as, well, almost arrogant. Bold lines, cut & paste, lack of charm. I don't know. It's as if he HAS to make his art "perfect", but in the end, the opposite occurs. Like in this picture. Is it meant to be enticing? Perhaps. Part of me says his style of art just isn't meant for this work - but the other, more logical side states he's trying too hard to fish for money. Back in the first year or two when he first drew PvP, I enjoyed it. It was different, refreshing, dare I say... humorous? But now the same jokes are replayed, save for the fact they deal with newer games. The art has lost its lovable quality.

January 11th, 1999. You can easily spot mistakes in his art - the chair Cole (I think that's his name, been awhile) sits in extends a little past the panel. Cole's long strand of hair's root shifts positions in every panel. The linework is uneven. But this produces a certain quality. All art has its mistakes, but that's what adds on to the appeal.

What can I say? I suppose this sort of art pleases some folk. It's bold. It demands for attention. But if you look closely, especially at the girl named Sonya, you notice similar forms. Well, okay, the characters ARE going to stick with similar forms. Not like they're shifting body shapes every single panel. But it's more of a copy-paste fashion. It loses its certain charm. A charm that declares on its soapbox, "I do proclaim that quality is indeed over quantity. I wish to add personality to my inkings; attitude to my characters. I wish to care for my fans."

Geez. I must be tired or something. X_X I don't know if any of this made sense. Call me confused if you will. ^_^

[ 08-04-2002: Message edited by: Adrecia Tru'Ril ]

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