How many of you feel that it's wrong to "cyber" in a game like EQ?
Yes, I realize the odds of the "female" player being a cute girl about five feet tall with tan skin and blonde hair are about the same as the "male" player being about seven feet tall with dark red hair/beard and a weightlifter's build (wood elf & barbarian, if you couldn't guess). That's not the question. The question is, if both sides agree to it, is it wrong to "cyber" in a MMORPG?
Also (and here's where the bordom at work came in), what are considered "good manners" for such a thing? Obviously, using /tells to do the emotes and dialog for this is a must (unless you're doing it on the stage in West FP), but what about the other rules?
Will Miss Manners yell at you if you don't give them a /tell the next day? Who gets the loot if you have to kill a MOB that attacked during this? How long do you have to wait before you /camp out? Are you allowed to challenge to a /duel to decide who pays for the room at the inn?
As you can see, most of the question isn't really serious. But, the first part (is it OK at all) is.
Feedback?
omg do u wnt 2 sybar?1
its what people that cant get the real thing use :P
plus 9 times outta 10 that wood elf you think your having hot love with is really a 50 year old lawyer with a sick fantasy
1. EQ is a social game, and no place is really private. /tells are best. Be mindful of others. I've seen huge verbal scuffles break out because someone discovered two people becoming far more intimate with each other in a supposedly abandonned tent. EQ isn't your personal chatroom, nor is it like mudsex, where your only threat is someone walking into the same room with you or a mischan.
2. CONSENT. The thing with EQ is, you can not tell if the person behind the monitor is male, female, 13, 84, whatever. You have to go by their verbal prowess. And, really, would YOU jump all over someone if they popped up right behind you and started groping? No. That is harassment. Don't do it. Consent is key.
3. Don't whore yourself for plat or items. You just look cheap and stupid.
4. If you want to involve more than two people, you can, but there'll be issues with privacy. Say you found the perfect little out of the way place. Remember how I said no place in EQ is really private. it's true there. Shush. it is. Anyone can waltz in and you won't know until they do. Those newfangled chats help a lot here. So do groups. Keep it private, then have fun, you silly kids.
5. Putting your Staff of the Serpent into orifices is just nasty.
6. INTERRUPTIONS. They happen. You could be having a great session, and get interrupted by roving mobs. This sucks, but there's no real way to avoid this except to stay in city zones, and then, it's not 100% guaranteed (faction and such). Interruptions are the biggest danger to your hot EQ love session. A tip: anyplace with undead, steer clear of.
7. Legalness. If you're discovered, you will be warned. I don't agree with this, and if you're going to be having hot cyb0r in EQ, you don't either, but there's no way to change this except to keep it as FREAKISHLY PRIVATE as possible. EQ isn't the best place to share virtual bodily fluids, but if you want to, not stopping you. Be aware of the risks, and be ready to take the concequences if you get caught.
8. Age. Remember how Verant said EQ was a kids' game? There are kids playing. Be aware of this. ANother reason to keep things private.
All I can think of right now...
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Eisuye had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
A tip: anyplace with undead, steer clear of.
But...but...zombies need loving, too. [ 05-20-2002: Message edited by: Waisztarroz ]
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There was much rejoicing when Waisztarroz said this:
But...but...zombies need loving, too.
Oh yes, work that rigor mortis baby, oh yeah...
A bunch of guys that all play female woodelfs =p None of them hide it; in fact it is blatantly obvious that they are guys.
On a typical weekend they get roughly ~20-30 tells for cyber between the 4 of them
Barbarians = breasts = butt = nice figure = romp in the snow with me?
If, in the course of RP, things get a bit "intense" between my character and another, I will draw the line.
Any emotes that you wouldn't want a GM to see are too far.
If you want to say (for character RP) that the characters went off and had sex, that's ok if we both agree to it. It will not be RPed out though. It just "happened off camera".
I make no promises as to my appearance, build, race, or gender in Real Life. In character is in character. If you want something to fill in for RL stimulation, you're in the wrong place.
Plutonic stuff is A-OK. Remember, if it's something you wouldn't want a GM to see, it's a no-no.
I don't need advice on how to do it or anything like that. I was just wondering what everyone's oppinion of it was. How far is too far for the RP in a MMORPG, so to speak?
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We were all impressed when Reynar wrote:
Hehe, in my EQ guild we have "team woodie"A bunch of guys that all play female woodelfs =p None of them hide it; in fact it is blatantly obvious that they are guys.
On a typical weekend they get roughly ~20-30 tells for cyber between the 4 of them
omg gimme their names! My friends list is empty.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Vorago said:
Cyber scares me
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Bloodsage said:
In context of a game (rather than a pathetic lack of attention IRL), why would one bother to RP that aspect of a character?
RP is just an excuse for it. Like PKing and then covering it up with the guise that you're roleplaying a thief.
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So quoth Bloodsage:
Just for my edification, why would cybar have anything to do with RP? In context of a game (rather than a pathetic lack of attention IRL), why would one bother to RP that aspect of a character?
Honestly that always confused me..
I mean being cute and cuddly I could understand, Fae has a side of her like that, but ummm.. Is there really any reason to go beyond the boundaries of PDA? I guess it would be semi understandable for couples doing the long distance thing. It's at least a way to reenforce faithfulness and still,.. enjoy?.. yourself.
But then again, I find the Carnal Knoledge rules for D&D extremely humorous and in some ways entertaining. I can also see some way to spice up a game with some humorous (Or even serious) bits with em. I doubt I could ever enforce them though, I would get to queasy.
I would never condem it for anyone who enjoys it though. If it's the way they wanna be, I say go for it. As long as you respect everyone else right to NOT want to be a part of it. ie: Get a room.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Bloodsage wrote:
Just for my edification, why would cybar have anything to do with RP? In context of a game (rather than a pathetic lack of attention IRL), why would one bother to RP that aspect of a character?
You'll notice I draw the RP line before it goes that far, but I know there are those that do it. Heck, there was even a Dragon Magazine article about how to deal with RPing situations that turn to sex. (Their best advice, it should happen "off camera".)
Think of it like a movie. Lots of movies have sex scenes in them. Most of them don't really need them, they do nothing to really advance the plot or develop the characters. Every now and then though, you will find a movie where the sex scene does improve the plot somehow. Not often (very rarely, in fact), but it has been known to happen.
Also, there's a question of just where it goes from normal RP to "cyber". I know some people that would be horrified by talk of spankings and (_|_) such has appeared on this board, and would call it "cyber sex". Others would draw the line about where Bill Clinton draws it.
Given all the differing views on sex, and on RP, stuff that crosses the line is bound to turn up sooner or later.
Allthough, the WHY of it isn't what I'm wondering about. I'm wondering about what people think of it as far as good/bad to allow it to happen in a MMORPG.
That, and I suspect that Verant is going to re-create that Luclin-models "nude bug" with some minor changes and additional emotes, and open a new "Premium RP Server" for ages 21 and up. (Admit it, it would make money.)
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael impressed everyone with:
Yer all just upset that Kunark goblins are popular with the ladies cuz o' that tongue and such.
Everytime I see that tongue I think of that bit from Chris Rock's "No Sex in the Champaign Room" about pierced tongues.
Its when they bug others/do it in public that it starts to become a problem.
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Eisuye stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Barbarians = breasts = butt = nice figure = romp in the snow with me?
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent JooJooFlop said:
Everytime I see that tongue I think of that bit from Chris Rock's "No Sex in the Champaign Room" about pierced tongues.
"If a woman has a pierced tongue, she'll probably suck your dick. If a guy has a pierced tongue, he'll probably suck your dick"
*goes off to listen to that "song" again*
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And it's quite fun, although I've never done it in EQ. Fun times in IRC, though.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Bloodsage was all like:
Just for my edification, why would cybar have anything to do with RP? In context of a game (rather than a pathetic lack of attention IRL), why would one bother to RP that aspect of a character?
Numerous reasons, from "added realism", (making suspension of disbelief easier) to the fact that it can be just plain fun. A lot the former, yet mostly the latter. But yeah, if ye gonna do it, keep it private.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Lyinar had this to say about dark elf butts:
Sometimes it adds a depth to a RP couple that wouldn't have been there if things had just been glossed over. There's that experience and the specifics of that experience they would remember, and it could affect them in the future, maybe make it easier to get into a character's head, and feel closer to their significant other.
This is true.
Who gives a damn, if they are doing it in private? If they are enjoying themselves, all the more power to them.
Shrugs
Sadly, due to some people, I'm actually against it now. Why you ask? We have guild members or alliance members that cyber on our raids.
They're so busy getting off that the raid becomes second and I really cant stand that. Raid or Cyber. Dont do both.
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Nobody really understood why Ferrel wrote:
Raid or Cyber. Dont do both.
Comedy gold.
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Ferrel was listening to Cher while typing:
Sadly, due to some people, I'm actually against it now. Why you ask? We have guild members or alliance members that cyber on our raids.They're so busy getting off that the raid becomes second and I really cant stand that. Raid or Cyber. Dont do both.
This. Is. Funny.
It even slipped into Alliance Chat before?
The worst is alliance chat. Its the commands channel where all instructions are issued. Its our guild our alliance guild and both groups invites/recruits.
I once missfired an angry tell into it and had 2 guilds and about 10 recruits apologzing to me. Dont piss the gnoll off. [ 05-21-2002: Message edited by: Ferrel ]
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Ferrel had this to say about Pirotess:
Yes, we've had missfired cyber in:
Group chat
Guild chat
Alliance chat
Heal chatThe worst is alliance chat. Its the commands channel where all instructions are issued. Its our guild our alliance guild and both groups invites/recruits.
I once missfired an angry tell into it and had 2 guilds and about 10 recruits apologzing to me. Dont piss the gnoll off.
Why does your little icon dealy say Sullon Zek? =)
Isn't this you listed here?: http://www.silentredemption.org/members.cgi [ 05-21-2002: Message edited by: Reynar ]
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Ferrel got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
I once missfired an angry tell into it and had 2 guilds and about 10 recruits apologzing to me. Dont piss the gnoll off.
Damn.. now that is impressive