And my results:
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EDIT: Added my results [ 04-29-2002: Message edited by: ImNotTrent ]
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You've just bitten a bullet!You say that if there are no compelling arguments or evidence that show that God does not exist, then atheism is a matter of faith, not rationality. Therefore, it seems that you do not think that the mere absence of evidence for the existence of God is enough to justify believing that she does not exist. This view is also suggested by your earlier claim that it is not rational to believe that the Loch Ness monster does not exist even if, despite years of trying, no evidence has been presented to suggest that it does exist.
There is no logical inconsistency in your answers. But by denying that the absence of evidence, even where it has been sought, is enough to justify belief in the non-existence of things, you are required to countenance possibilities that most people would find bizarre. For example, do you really want to claim that it is not rationally justified to believe that intelligent aliens do not live on Mars?
This reasoning is faulty because it does not allow for my belief that both Atheism and Theism are faith-based, and only Agnosticism isn't.
In otherwords, you are taking it on faith that because of Lack of Evidence it does not exist, when the Logical and Rational choice would be to claim the Agnostic viewpoint which is to say that I don't know whether it does exist or not.
I took zero hits and 2 bullets. [ 04-29-2002: Message edited by: vertue ]
Archers Roxxors!
One bite, one hit. I'm well thought out and stuff.
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The fact that you progressed through this activity without being hit and biting only one bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. The bitten bullet occurred because you responded in a way that required that you held a view that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, because you bit only one bullet and avoided direct hits completely you still qualify for our second highest award. A good achievement!
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The fact that you progressed through this activity without being hit and biting only one bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. The bitten bullet occurred because you responded in a way that required that you held a view that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, because you bit only one bullet and avoided direct hits completely you still qualify for our second highest award. A good achievement!
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Fair 'nuff.
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Congratulations!
You have been awarded the TPM medal of honour! This is our highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.The fact that you progressed through this activity neither being hit nor biting a bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and very well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, you avoided both these fates - and in doing so qualify for our highest award. A fine achievement!
RELIGION DUMB
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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Congratulations!
You have been awarded the TPM medal of honour! This is our highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.The fact that you progressed through this activity neither being hit nor biting a bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and very well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, you avoided both these fates - and in doing so qualify for our highest award. A fine achievement!
32406 people have completed this activity to date.
You suffered zero direct hits and bit zero bullets.
This compares with the average player of this activity to date who takes 1.29 hits and bites 1.07 bullets.
8.35% of the people who have completed this activity, like you, emerged unscathed with the TPM Medal of Honour.
49.10% of the people who have completed this activity took very little damage and were awarded the TPM Medal of Distinction. 
Hehe. 
Medal of Honour. Hooray.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
and on another note, several times, the person wrote this called God a she, seeeeee, i told you god was a woman
32428 people have completed this activity to date.
You suffered zero direct hits and bit 2 bullets.
This compares with the average player of this activity to date who takes 1.29 hits and bites 1.07 bullets.
49.10% of the people who have completed this activity, like you, took very little damage and were awarded the TPM Medal of Distinction.
8.37% of the people who have completed this activity emerged unscathed with the TPM Medal of Honour.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
quote:Congratulations! You have made it to the end of this activity.
You took 2 direct hits and you have bitten zero bullets. The average player of this activity to date takes 1.29 hits and bites 1.07 bullets. 32539 people have so far undertaken this activity.
Comparing Loch Ness to God doesnt work... I'm sorry [ 04-30-2002: Message edited by: Pesco ]
So, I took the test as I was taught in (Catholic) School.
I dodged 2 bullets, no hits, and my inner convictions and beliefs about God are firm and well thought out.
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Bloodsage had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Hehe. "Rational belief" is an oxymoron.
"Rational Faith" is an oxymoron.
A "rational belief" is a belief that is rational. I believe that peanut butter is brown, and that's rational enough.
You don't believe peanut butter to be brown; you think that based upon evidence.
What is the point of belief where evidence will support a rational choice?
Faith leads to belief. Thought leads to opinion. The former happens in the absence of evidence. The latter requires it.
Add: "think" and "believe" are not interchangeable terms. [ 04-30-2002: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Ive noticed that after the 2nd warning of how hard questions are, you can get to a point where either answer contradicts a previous response:P
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Battleground Analysis
Congratulations!
You have been awarded the TPM medal of honour! This is our highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.The fact that you progressed through this activity neither being hit nor biting a bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and very well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, you avoided both these fates - and in doing so qualify for our highest award. A fine achievement!
How did you do compared to other people?
33805 people have completed this activity to date.
You suffered zero direct hits and bit zero bullets.
This compares with the average player of this activity to date who takes 1.29 hits and bites 1.07 bullets.
8.42% of the people who have completed this activity, like you, emerged unscathed with the TPM Medal of Honour.
49.03% of the people who have completed this activity took very little damage and were awarded the TPM Medal of Distinction.
The fact that you progressed through this activity neither being hit nor biting a bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and very well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, you avoided both these fates - and in doing so qualify for our highest award. A fine achievement!
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The Otaku Penguin's fortune cookie read:
Just because.
lol
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Congratulations! You have made it to the end of this activity.
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Congratulations!
You have been awarded the TPM medal of honour! This is our highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.
The fact that you progressed through this activity neither being hit nor biting a bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and very well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. You would have bitten bullets had you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, you avoided both these fates - and in doing so qualify for our highest award. A fine achievement!
Mind you, this test misses one important point. Just because God tells you to do something, doesn't mean that I think you should do it or that it's the right thing to do. Hell, she's got a strange sense of humor, she might be just fucking with your head. Listen to Goddess, but trust yourself as well.
You took zero direct hits and you bit 2 bullets. The average player of this activity to date takes 1.29 hits and bites 1.06 bullets. 34896 people have so far undertaken this activity.
So my beleifs are a little odd... so? Still like them, as my beleifs incorporate all OTHER beleifs and still manages to make sense. At least to me. Though I can understand the bitten bullets, because my beleifs pretty much allow for infinite possibilities... including stuff that should be in the realm of fantasy.
Oh, and if you're told by God to do something horrible and you do it, we should respect your beleifs, but beleif that our actions are as morally justified as your own when we shoot you.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
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Bloodsage had this to say about Cuba:
Belief is an act of faith.You don't believe peanut butter to be brown; you think that based upon evidence.
What is the point of belief where evidence will support a rational choice?
Faith leads to belief. Thought leads to opinion. The former happens in the absence of evidence. The latter requires it.
Add: "think" and "believe" are not interchangeable terms.
Just as a point of reference, Empiricism is a belief. However, it's a deep seated belief based on the evidence that one's senses provide. It also allows, and is the basis of, rational thought. And you're quite obviously an empiricist. I'm not a theist, but go Descartes. [ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: Pvednes Phoenixfeather ]
That label is meaningless, dude.
If something is verifiable, it really isn't subject to belief. I don't believe that the world is rational, I think that based upon the available evidence.
Why do I choose to use evidence and rationality, rather than arbitrary religious belief sets to explain the universe? Because evidence and rationality are the only thought processes that explain the underlying observations.
Calling everything that happens, "Deity X's will," is not an explanation, but rather an obfuscation.
"Empircism," as you use the term, is not a belief set in the sense you claim.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
[additional: Inductive reasoning is a type of thought, but it is not based on evidence. However, it is not neccisarily flawed.]
[extra additional: saying something is "Deity X's will" is neither belief nor thought. It is ignorance.]
[ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: Pvednes Phoenixfeather ]
All thought is not belief, though all beliefs are thoughts.
For example, one cannot correctly say, "I think there is a God," since there is no way to arrive at that conclusion through logic. Such things are the product of belief and of emotion. "I believe there is a God," and "I feel there must be a God," are both acceptable substitutes.
Though the latter is problemmatic for other reasons.
What you're asserting is akin to saying, "You only believe that's a chair because it looks like a chair, acts like a chair, and you sit on it to use your computer. It could just as well be a burrito, but your beliefs don't allow that possibility, though other belief sets are just as valid."
See what I mean.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about Tron:
What you're asserting is akin to saying, "You only believe that's a chair because it looks like a chair, acts like a chair, and you sit on it to use your computer. It could just as well be a burrito, but your beliefs don't allow that possibility, though other belief sets are just as valid."
Which is exactly what I'm saying. My Definitions. Knowledge: A given, that can be truly proven, 100%. For example, "I exist". Belief: Anything without 100% certainty. For example, You can say you know how ride a bike, and can ride the bike, but you can't prove the bike exists. -- I consider pretty much everything to sit under beliefs. Even logical givens, like 1+1=2. And I do realise I appropriated my beliefs from assorted philosophers, but there you go. -- But they're good beliefs. It would be, frankly, illogical to doubt them. Oh well, bedtime for me.
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You have been awarded the TPM medal of distinction! This is our second highest award for outstanding service on the intellectual battleground.The fact that you progressed through this activity without being hit and biting only one bullet suggests that your beliefs about God are internally consistent and well thought out.
A direct hit would have occurred had you answered in a way that implied a logical contradiction. The bitten bullet occurred because you responded in a way that required that you held a view that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. However, because you bit only one bullet and avoided direct hits completely you still qualify for our second highest award. A good achievement!
It is useful, however, to distinguish between things based upon faith, and those based upon observation. Unfortunately, lumping everything under the title "belief," elevates lunacy and denigrates science.
It's the same as claiming all opinions are equal. Once you enter that world, you open yourself to others' attempts to redefine fundamental methodology, under the guise that "logic is just a set of beliefs," interchangeable with another.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
You took 1 direct hit and you bit 1 bullets. The average player of this activity to date takes 1.29 hits and bites 1.06 bullet. 35317 people have so far undertaken this activity.
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What was that all about? I didn't bother reading the instructions.
I liked this one
'You've just bitten a bullet!
You are consistent in applying the principle that it is justifiable to base one's beliefs about the external world on a firm, inner conviction, regardless of the external evidence, or lack of it, for the truth or falsity this conviction. The problem is that it seems you have to accept that people might be justified in their belief that God could demand something terrible.
This is something many religious people are willing to accept. For example, Kierkegaard believed that it is precisely because Abraham had to contravene established morality to follow God's will and attempt to sacrifice his son which made his act the supreme act of faith.
But as Kierkegaard also stressed, this makes the act incomprehensible from a rational point of view. The rational alternative - that people should require more than such an inner conviction to justify such a belief - is more attractive to most people, but you reject this alternative and bite the bullet.
Click here to continue.'
The fact that you progressed through this activity being hit only once and biting very few bullets suggests that your beliefs about God are well thought out and almost entirely internally consistent.
The direct hit you suffered occurred because one set of your answers implied a logical contradiction. The bitten bullets occurred because you responded in ways that required that you held views that most people would have found strange, incredible or unpalatable. At the bottom of this page, we have reproduced the analyses of your direct hit and bitten bullets.
Because you only suffered one direct hit and bit very few bullets, you qualify for our second highest award. A good achievement!
