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Elvish Crack Piper
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posted 01-20-2002 02:07:49 PM
Ok, the monk class eventually gets a spell resistance. My question is whether or not a races inate resistance, like the drow get 11+level spell resistance. Do these stack, or not and do any forms of spell resistance stack.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
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posted 01-20-2002 02:14:26 PM
yep. They stack, unless it specifically says otherwise.
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Elvish Crack Piper
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posted 01-20-2002 02:19:24 PM
Thank you Ja'Deth, is this stated anywhere in one of the manuals?

Second Question, is their anywhere in the underdark that a drow would train to be a monk?

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
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posted 01-20-2002 02:23:22 PM
I believe it mentions it somewhere under the Monk info. Might be mistaken. Other types of Magic Resistance stack across class/race (but not always with equipment. Generally it's your race/class OR your equipment; not both)

And no...nowhere I'm aware of in the Underdark. Keep in mind that monks HAVE to be lawful. If they stop being lawful they lose a lot of their cool stuff. Most of the Underdark is a Chaotic Evil free-for-all. Not many places can afford to be lawful/honorable for any length of time. It's like a Half-Orc Monk...yeah it's possible, but you're pretty likely to be the only one you'll encounter.

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Kanid
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posted 01-20-2002 02:23:43 PM
Drow monks?
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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 01-20-2002 02:26:44 PM
quote:
Kanid wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Drow monks?

And why not, drow are nimble, resistant to magic(which stacks according to Ja'Deth) and they have innate magical abilities.

If a drow monk were to be lawful, then it would depend on what law was being follow now wouldnt it?

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
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posted 01-20-2002 02:28:07 PM
The FR book has a picture labeled "Tiefling Monk" so Drow monks are possible. Anything's possible. Just rather highly improbable. I could see some sort of Drowish pit fighter sort. Dunno.
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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 01-20-2002 02:31:49 PM
Ok, thanks for the input Deth.

Is spell resistance always on, or able to be turned off at will for healing spells and such.


Last question for now, what do you prefer to be called? De, Ja'Deth, Misser Issar?

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-20-2002 02:32:56 PM
As clarified in Oriental Adventures, the reason "Lawful" is reflected in the Monk class (and in most Monk-specific PClasses), is to reflect two things:

1. An honorable bearing. The likelihood of a master being willing to teach a student who'll violate the code of honor to kill their teacher is low.

2. An ordered method of thinking/living/existing.

Keep in mind, though, that you could be a Lawful EVIL character. The sort who uses the system to their own best interests, but who is cruel in their existence within the system.

The entire Baatezu/Devil race is based on that premise. Unfortunatly, Lolth followers aren't likely to like you.

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
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posted 01-20-2002 02:35:53 PM
I get the impression that it's something of a permeable protection. Healing spells get in, but offensive spells set against you don't. That's how I always handle it. Otherwise it's not much of a benefit.

And Ja'Deth or Deth is fine. the full name "Ja'Deth'issar Ka'bael" means "Staff, eternal seeker. Dragon Guardian" more or less. Can call me Deth though. everyone else does.

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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 01-20-2002 02:36:43 PM
Thankfully, unlike Everquest a persons religion isnt automatically known to every NPC in the world. The drows existence is based on subterfuge, so I can just not tell the truth, which is one of the large parts of a lawful evil charecter right?
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King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 01-20-2002 02:38:40 PM
Well, keep in mind, Monks aren't necessarily all honorable people who come in with fists flying. Well, they're "honorable" but only as honorable as their definition of honor is.

Also, Monks can make pretty darn good assassins with their abilities. I think it makes sense for the drow to maintain sort of a sect of Monks to take out other house rivalries in the society. Mercenary Monks, if you will.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
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posted 01-20-2002 02:40:33 PM
I would imagine they'd have Thief/Ninjas rather than Monk/Ninjas.

Or Thief/Yakuza (if you have OA)

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Elvish Crack Piper
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posted 01-20-2002 02:42:05 PM
Thats what I was going for, the basic ooc premise being the lack of weapons required and the stacking of the spell resistance. Drows is 11+level and whatever the monk gets.
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Timpofee
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posted 01-20-2002 02:44:52 PM
according to the supplement book for fighters and monks Drow Monks are indeed something to behold..
they work more as a ninja class in the way they are the members that silence non political killings and such....
Sorry i havent been on lately.. kinda in a rock/hard place lately.. and not in a good way
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
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posted 01-20-2002 02:46:48 PM
OA could easily be applied to a Drow story. The assorted clans of Rokugan could easily be different houses of Drow.
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Kanid
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posted 01-20-2002 03:05:29 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about pies:
I get the impression that it's something of a permeable protection. Healing spells get in, but offensive spells set against you don't. That's how I always handle it. Otherwise it's not much of a benefit.

Well in BG2 the cloak of MR and the drow abilities stack, AND they prohibit healing and other beneficial effects, spells and potions.

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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 01-20-2002 03:28:19 PM
quote:
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Well in BG2 the cloak of MR and the drow abilities stack, AND they prohibit healing and other beneficial effects, spells and potions.

Thats also 2E rules, and BG2 is a little different and is designed so their is less abusive item tweaking than would be possible in a RL DnD campaign.

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Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 01-20-2002 03:50:03 PM
If I remember correctly, can't someone willingly supress their magic resistance as a free action (to allow the casting of healing type spells and such)

And yeah, a drow monk would be the type id see sneaking in, breaking someone's neck, and getting the heck out of there quick. Whereas the assassin may use a poison dart or somethin.

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KaLourin
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posted 01-21-2002 07:23:36 AM
Innate spell resistance can indeed be supressed to allow beneficial spells to be cast.. if you know the spell is being cast on you. Lets say your cleric is under improved invis, hiding while everybody else fights. You dont have detect invis up. you dont know where or when he will cast on you.

Also, I'm pretty sure a drow's innate spell resistance and a monk's class spell resistance do not stack. What level do monks get spell resistance and how much? lets say they get SR 10 at lv 15 (dont have my PHB handy so I dont know the exact numbers)

Drow SR 11+class level: 26 (11+15 monk lvl)
Monk SR 10 (at lv 15): 10
total SR: 36 on a lv 15 char

a lv 16 wizard without spell penetration or spell foci would have to roll a crit to affect you. EPIC level characters (21+) would have a hard time casting on you.
You would be rendered nearly invulnerable to all forms of magic cast by anybody below lv 20. Sorry, too powerful in my book. As a DM I wouldnt allow it.

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Dashiva
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posted 01-21-2002 07:39:31 AM
3E GMG, page 82. Left column, fourth bullet (line 20)

"Spell resistance does not stack."

Clear enough?

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