Episode 1: Awesome.
Episode 2: Not so much.
Episode 3: And we're back.
And now there's a racist motherfucker running around with one less hand.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
I don't get it
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Mr. Parcelan said:Episode 1: Awesome.
Episode 2: Not so much.
Episode 3: And we're back.
My exact appraisal. Gonna stay with it through Season 1 definitely.
Episode 2 worried me a bit as it felt like zero character development and almost no plot progression.
Episode 3 was good, so if anyone is starting now, stick on past ep 2.
If you didn't like episode 1 (Nem), don't bother with the rest (at least so far). The pace stays pretty consistent (slow).
I don't know. I gather that this is the pace, but it somehow seems like it's a drama with zombies shoehorned in at times.
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I liked the fourth episode and yet...I don't know. I gather that this is the pace, but it somehow seems like it's a drama with zombies shoehorned in at times.
Zombie Young and the Restless?
Guiding Light Zombies?
General Zombie Hospital?
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I don't know. I gather that this is the pace, but it somehow seems like it's a drama with zombies shoehorned in at times.
QFT. Last episode was boooooring. Yet still not bad. Weird.
The risk of a skull fragment shooting out and infecting her were pretty high, not to mention the way she shot her sister forehead to forehead, the noise from a handgun fired less than 5 inches from your ear would be pretty terrible.
I hope those spoiler tags work! 
Hopefully next episode will be more like the first 2. 
The deal with the comics, as creator Robert Kirkman explained, was that he wanted to deal with the human consequences of the "zombie apocalypse" scenario. His argument was that most zombie flicks and the like follow a pretty standard horror movie script. He wanted to expand the story past a 90-minute film script. Without spoiling anything, it should be said that in the comic no one...and I do mean NO ONE...is "safe" and anyone can die. Even core characters can be killed off. Sometimes it's senseless, sometimes it's cruel, or disgusting or the situations are terrible, but there's always a point. And as the story progresses, the zombies, while always present, become less the stars and more the stimulus for driving the actions of the characters.
Thus far the show's had a few episodes where I wish they'd move things along a bit (episode 2, I agree, could've done with some editing and rewriting; it's a bit telling that most of the story there wasn't covered in the comic), but I'm still going to keep watching.
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My issue is just that it seems like it can't decide which one it should be. Is it a dramatic story about saying goodbye to loved ones and dealing with the unbelievable pressure of being human? Or is it a story about coping with the end of the world and what happens to humans when they're an endangered species?
Granted, the zombie apocalypse is the source of the drama and they're totally intertwined; I like the concept, I just don't like the execution. Episode one wove them together really well; there was plenty of action and terror and more than a little drama. Past that, though, the directors seem to be picking and choosing which episode is which. Some are set aside exclusively for character development rather than letting that happen through the action, some are just action without anything meaningful happening.
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I get and admire the concept of the human side of the zombie story. In fact, I think it's about all that can be done with zombies anymore, since the original is both played out and makes for some severely boring stuff.My issue is just that it seems like it can't decide which one it should be. Is it a dramatic story about saying goodbye to loved ones and dealing with the unbelievable pressure of being human? Or is it a story about coping with the end of the world and what happens to humans when they're an endangered species?
Granted, the zombie apocalypse is the source of the drama and they're totally intertwined; I like the concept, I just don't like the execution. Episode one wove them together really well; there was plenty of action and terror and more than a little drama. Past that, though, the directors seem to be picking and choosing which episode is which. Some are set aside exclusively for character development rather than letting that happen through the action, some are just action without anything meaningful happening.
It's...interesting. The episodes and elements that work better are the ones that stick to the comic more. I think I'm more forgiving of the weaker elements because to me it's like watching deleted scenes from a movie I really enjoyed.
On the other hand, you can't carry a television series for folks who haven't read the source material that way. And the stuff that goes off script has tended to be noticeably sloppier and more "Hollywood Zombie Movie" than the stuff that stays on script.
I'll keep watching, but they do need to tighten up.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Duck Tales:
It's...interesting. The episodes and elements that work better are the ones that stick to the comic more. I think I'm more forgiving of the weaker elements because to me it's like watching deleted scenes from a movie I really enjoyed.On the other hand, you can't carry a television series for folks who haven't read the source material that way. And the stuff that goes off script has tended to be noticeably sloppier and more "Hollywood Zombie Movie" than the stuff that stays on script.
I'll keep watching, but they do need to tighten up.
Other hand how close can they keep the the comics? There are some pretty fucked up moments in the books, and the books come off a bit more like the survivors slow descent into madness and depravity.
I never read the comic, so I don't know if the characters are accurate to it, but I do know they decided to deviate greatly from the comic, so that's not really an adequate defense.
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Other hand how close can they keep the the comics? There are some pretty fucked up moments in the books, and the books come off a bit more like the survivors slow descent into madness and depravity.
There's some stuff I question whether they'd ever be able to get the funds for...like living in a maximum-security prison. Hard to find one of those abandoned and conveniently placed to film in. Likewise, non-walker cannibals, parents wanting to kill their kids, rape in all sorts of forms... And I imagine they'll keep the death of children to a minimum in general, first scene of first episode notwithstanding; if it was HBO or Showtime I'd say no problem given that there's shows like Dexter and so forth. But on AMC...might be a little too rough. And heaven help us once Michonne appears on the scene and all the crap that went down afterward with the other settlement.
Likewise there's elements in the comics that I felt were resolved in a satisfactory fashion in the comics (the Rick/Wife/Deputy triangle and the lingering aftermath) that have dragged on here; I wish they'd resolve them already. Likewise, most of the heavy deviation serves to develop characters a bit more up front rather than having that character development happen mainly off panel or between issues.
Keep in mind the show is more or less showing us a running constant serial of events as they happen; the comic might drift a few days or a few weeks between issues. The comic insinuated they skirted around Atlanta for a while (it was late summer when Rick woke up and they were forced to abandon the city-scavenging camping routine as it moved into winter), so strictly speaking they're still within a few weeks of Rick having woken up, if that long.
Again, I'm not going to defend the show to the end, but it's far from hitting any warning/danger zones for me yet. Did think the mini-season ended weakly, though...the two CDC episodes didn't really accomplish anything story-wise, ASIDE from answering a question Kirkman (the writer of the comic and show) said he got from a lot of folks living around Atlanta; specifically "why didn't Rick and company check out the CDC for clues/hope/stuff?"
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Verily, Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael doth proclaim:
On the other hand.
You didn't mention a first hand, does your comment only have one hand in a clever play on words? Or am I reading into it too much?
