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Topic: Annual Tax Rant
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-24-2009 08:40:16 AM
Total (income, Medicare, Social Security), I was shaken down for roughly $20,000 after my refund.

It's a real shame there's no real way to outlaw pork in legislation; we'd fix the budget at a stroke.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Greenlit
posted 01-24-2009 09:17:13 AM
I didn't even make $20,000 last year.
Who the hell do you think I am?
I'm the goddamn Batman.
Number 1 Poster
posted 01-24-2009 09:30:18 AM
I'm probably gonna be getting $2500 this April.
Naimah
In a Fire
posted 01-24-2009 10:07:17 AM
I pay roughly $1k/month in federal taxes. Woo government!
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-24-2009 11:32:28 AM
I'd happily pay more if it meant I never had to worry about obtaining health insurance or paying for medical care.

As it is, I think we're going to get a small refund this year, as I can begin deducting mortgage interest. Although, my wife did get a substantial pay raise, so who knows.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Steven Steve
posted 01-24-2009 11:53:51 AM
FUCK KEYNES AND ROOSEVELT.
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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-24-2009 04:26:48 PM
Ask Mort what the British think of their free health care. Ask anyone in France the same.

The problem is that free health care equals extremely low quality health care, and less access to important things that most people in the US take for granted. I don't know about Canada, but in France and the UK, anyone who can afford to pays] for their health care.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-24-2009 04:36:13 PM
quote:
Bloodsage got served! Bloodsage got served!
Ask Mort what the British think of their free health care. Ask anyone in France the same.

The problem is that free health care equals extremely low quality health care, and less access to important things that most people in the US take for granted. I don't know about Canada, but in France and the UK, anyone who can afford to pays] for their health care.


Well, what can I say? I think of the children.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-24-2009 04:38:58 PM
I do, too. That's why I think nationalized health care is such a bad idea.
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-24-2009 04:54:14 PM
Oh, and the fun part is that this tax burden represents almost exactly a quarter of my taxable income. So Uncle Sam swipes one dollar in four that I earn.
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 01-24-2009 05:28:57 PM
That's what you get for being successful, dammit. You should know better.

I'll take my so-called poverty level income, complete with two cars and a house, thank-you-very-much.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 01-24-2009 06:00:25 PM
I payed 14k in income tax.
Naimah
In a Fire
posted 01-24-2009 07:00:42 PM
The best thing about income tax is that it isn't normalized to cost of living. Yay for the people in the north east getting fucked more then people in the south.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-24-2009 07:25:13 PM
quote:
Aw, geez, I have Naimah all over myself!
The best thing about income tax is that it isn't normalized to cost of living. Yay for the people in the north east getting fucked more then people in the south.

Eh, it's cool. I just consider it the price one has pay for living in an interesting part of the country.

Incidentally, because of its extremely high population density and high per capita income, New Jersey has the highest federal taxation disparity of any state. In 2005 we payed $77 billion to the Federal government and only got $55 billion back. So, for those dirt-cheap property taxes, you're welcome.

The only real problem (for the South, that is) is that wealthy liberal types are getting fed up with the high taxes and the fucking cold winters and heading down south. That part of the reason Virginny and North Carolina flipped blue this past election.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 01-24-2009 08:24:21 PM
quote:
Bloodsage said:
Ask Mort what the British think of their free health care

In general: it's good. But under-funded with a lack of nurses (because of the relatively poor pay). That under-funding means not every hospital has a certain machine/scanner or that they only have one so there's a waiting list.

In specialist situations: same quality of care as a private hospital. When my mom got cancer they pulled out all the stops. The only things that were different were a longer wait to see the doctor (only on checkups, emergencies were sorted on the dot and they always did house calls) and sometimes beds were unavailable in a specialist ward so they were put in a normal ward but sectioned off as specialist, so no difference really.

To be honest, the NHS has come a long way since the dark days of the 80's and 90's. Is it always as good as private care? No, of course not, the government only has so much money they can put into it. Is it still good though? Yes, I can speak from experience of accompanying my mom to every checkup and ward, it is good.

You'll usually find that the only nay-sayers of the NHS are those who have never been through it. They do a lot of good and the standard of care and attention is extremely high. If the question is "Does it work?", then I would have to say.. yes.. yes it does.

Nina
posted 01-24-2009 08:37:36 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Mortious wrote:
(stuff)

I have a similar experience from the Canadian public health care system.

The media and people in general all complain about how the emergency rooms are clogged up and it takes hours to get treated. But when I got bit by a squirrel while feeding it and headed to the ER, I got admitted within ten minutes, had my wound treated and disinfected then left a dozen minutes later.

(As to why I went, the squirrel was so unafraid I thought it might've been rabid. In retrospect, I know better than to think of rabies in any urban context now -- it was just obviously just overly used to being fed. Still, reading the wikipedia article on rabies is enough to scare anyone into blowing a squirrel bite into a life threatening condition. )

Some specialists have huge waiting lists, however, so I guess I'm lucky I haven't required services from any of those.

Nina fucked around with this message on 01-24-2009 at 08:39 PM.

Kermitov 2
Pancake
posted 01-24-2009 09:01:58 PM
My tax liability this year was around 3000$ This puts my tax rate at about 10%.

The bad news is that I didn't deduct enough and I owe about 600$.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-24-2009 09:02:49 PM
Butts.
Alidane
Urinary Tract Infection
posted 01-24-2009 11:36:29 PM
I need to do my taxes. First year of working full time. This may be ugly.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-25-2009 12:07:07 AM
quote:
And now, we sprinkle Alidane liberally with Old Spice!
I need to do my taxes. First year of working full time. This may be ugly.

Turbotax is retardedly easy.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Nina
posted 01-25-2009 12:15:41 AM
I don't think he meant the writing up the tax report as much as the amount that'll be going in taxes.
Alidane
Urinary Tract Infection
posted 01-25-2009 12:56:01 AM
quote:
Nina posted

I don't think he meant the writing up the tax report as much as the amount that'll be going in taxes.


This.

Captain Tarquinn
Don't Ask
posted 01-25-2009 04:10:47 AM
I'm very happy with the German "free" health care.

Just for the record.

"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-25-2009 04:19:57 AM
quote:
Bent over the coffee table, Mortious squealed:
You'll usually find that the only nay-sayers of the NHS are those who have never been through it. They do a lot of good and the standard of care and attention is extremely high. If the question is "Does it work?", then I would have to say.. yes.. yes it does.

I find exactly the opposite. As a matter of fact, you're the only Brit I've actually heard say anything more positive that, "I suppose it's better than nothing."

It's good to hear they're making improvements, though.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 01-25-2009 04:29:22 PM
quote:
Captain Tarquinn's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
I'm very happy with the German "free" health care.

Just for the record.


Don't Germany and Japan use a modified version of national healthcare? As in more of a hybrid system than what the UK and Canada use.

I've heard very good things about Germany and Japan's systems, but I haven't learned enough about how they actually function to build an opinion.

Monica
I've got an owie on my head :(
posted 01-25-2009 06:32:36 PM
So far I've only put in my w2 info from my serving job, and it says I'm getting $500 back so far... which is weird, 'cause I was told that waiting tables, I'd probably have to pay out because most servers make more than taxes can take out of their hourly rate (I've worked there 6 months and the only paychecks I've gotten that weren't completely void were my first 2-3.) But hey, whatever, if that's what Uncle Sam says then I'm down.

Hopefully my Starbucks w2 will get here soon.

Inferno-Spirit
Sports Advocate
posted 01-25-2009 08:10:27 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about the Spice Girls:
The problem is that free health care equals extremely low quality health care, and less access to important things that most people in the US take for granted. I don't know about Canada, but in France and the UK, anyone who can afford to pays] for their health care.

I'm very glad for my pseudo-free health care. Do realize that it is [i]not[i/] free, though. Given that, I'm also glad I live close enough to the states (10m drive) to travel there were I to need something such as an MRI that I might have to wait months for otherwise. The fee is not barring, and the relief or more immediate medical attention from a negative/positive scan is worth the cost. Most Canadians are not capable of receiving quick results even were they willing to pay for them.

I think a hybrid system of pay for faster service makes a lot of sense, but I'm a silly canuck, so whatever.

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`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 01-26-2009 09:44:27 AM
About 28% of my regular paycheck goes to taxes. Not all of that is federal, but the bulk is. For the past few years, my typical tax return has me getting back from federal, only to pay roughly the same amount into state. So long as I can maintain a reasonably comfortable lifestyle on the pay I take home, I'm not particularly worried.

On the subject of health care, I'm in a position where private vs public wouldn't matter much. In other words, I'm gainfully employed, and relatively healthy (aside from migraines). What my insurance doesn't cover, I can usually handle out of pocket. My parents aren't so lucky. My dad's employer has crap for coverage, to the point where they'd be better off with medicare and/or medicaid if they were able to get it. Some people have talked about the (allegedly?) poor quality of public health care programs in other countries, but private health care has been going down the same road for a long time.

I can think of two major concerns about privatizing any public program, or socializing any private program. First, the new program needs to establish a framework, more or less from scratch, without creating a disruption in service to the public. Second, unless the new program manages to improve upon the cost-to-benefit ratio maintained by its predecessor, there's no point in making the transition, because the general public will never see an improvement.

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