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Topic: Baldur's Gate 2!
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 07-27-2005 05:10:42 PM
So, help me! I'm not sure what I want to lead my party. Help me
Sean
posted 07-27-2005 05:11:46 PM
A Thief/Mage works pretty well.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Mod
Pancake
posted 07-27-2005 05:22:47 PM
Fun / Power: Inquisitor Paladin
Easy mode / Soloing: Kensai 9 / Mage 11
Slaughtering Casters: Fighter (Archer kit)
Huge backstabs with a staff: Rogue (Assassin kit)
Trap Cheese: Bounty Hunter
'Average' gameplay: Sorcerer
Gimmick: Wild Mage
Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 07-27-2005 06:17:49 PM
Chaotic Evil Mage is what I've used most recently. I love playing bastards. To make things more fun, make the rest of the party all good.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 07-27-2005 06:27:02 PM
quote:
Sean enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
A Thief/Mage works pretty well.

You are a cruel man.

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 07-27-2005 08:26:37 PM
quote:
Hey, Zaza, it's OK, really. At least you're not gay. Right? ... right? Shit.
You are a cruel man.

Compliments on the sig pic.

I've found multiclassing with a mage really reduces their effectiveness. I went Chaotic Good pure mage and was quite happy. Specialize if you want, but I don't like reducing my overall usefulness, even though most necromancy spells I rarely use.

You can find good tanks and good clerics fairly easily; finding a good mage or thief without a catch isn't so easy.



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Vinven D`Slyfox
posted 07-27-2005 09:47:06 PM
Mod covered it pretty well. I might assume that this is not the first time you played it? If it is, then I would recommend not viewing any online guides unless you are really stuck. I happened to view some info that spoiled afew things early in the game.

I wish I could offer more insight as to your exact query, but it has been quite awhile since I have played it. Have fun!

Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 07-27-2005 10:04:05 PM
You want a character with high charisma, and high intelligence. Class doesn't really matter.
Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 07-27-2005 10:10:25 PM
quote:
Noxhil2 put the bop in the bop-she-bop.
You want a character with high charisma, and high intelligence. Class doesn't really matter.

Charisma can be dealt with. Right when you get out of the starting dungeon you can get an item that boosts your charisma to 18. Bump your prime stat above all; there's stuff to deal with the rest.



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 07-27-2005 10:30:16 PM
quote:
Vinven D`Slyfox wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Mod covered it pretty well. I might assume that this is not the first time you played it? If it is, then I would recommend not viewing any online guides unless you are really stuck. I happened to view some info that spoiled afew things early in the game.

I wish I could offer more insight as to your exact query, but it has been quite awhile since I have played it. Have fun!


Nope, this'll be the 6th time

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 07-27-2005 10:33:36 PM
quote:
The propaganda machine of Falaanla Marr's junta released this statement:
Nope, this'll be the 6th time

Play the most evil dick you can be. It's really a lot of fun.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 07-31-2005 10:42:31 AM
quote:
Nicole Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Compliments on the sig pic.

I've found multiclassing with a mage really reduces their effectiveness. I went Chaotic Good pure mage and was quite happy. Specialize if you want, but I don't like reducing my overall usefulness, even though most necromancy spells I rarely use.

You can find good tanks and good clerics fairly easily; finding a good mage or thief without a catch isn't so easy.


The Nameless One is awesome.

The thing is, there's *4* mage/thief multiclassed characters you can pick up for your party. Something like half the available PCs are mage/thiefs. It's stupid as heck, and Sean knows it. He's just being mean.

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 07-31-2005 03:30:16 PM
quote:
Zaza didn't really write this. They're still passed out in my basement.
The Nameless One is awesome.

The thing is, there's *4* mage/thief multiclassed characters you can pick up for your party. Something like half the available PCs are mage/thiefs. It's stupid as heck, and Sean knows it. He's just being mean.


He is, though Nordom's still cuter.

I never really noticed it like that. I mostly shelved the mages, and used Yoshimo as my thief until I could get Imoen (with +% thief items, she's okay at it), until I decided to run through the game as a monk. A lawful good monk. Which was fun in ToB, but still



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Hireko
Kill a fish before breakfast each day
posted 08-01-2005 10:42:55 AM
My most enjoyable run-through was as a monk. I got extremely pissed off though, when I brought Dad to "almost dead" and he stayed there for another 45 minutes of me beating on him. Darn you dream sequences!!!
Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
Steven Steve
posted 08-01-2005 01:23:57 PM
Yeah, it was pretty sweet kicking goblins into chunks.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 08-01-2005 02:11:55 PM
Abi-Dazim's Horrid Wilting.

My heart swells with happiness as everyone else suffers and dies.

Screw magic-and-weapon-eating spells, I was an area-effect whore.



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 08-01-2005 02:25:03 PM
quote:
Nicole wrote this stupid crap:
Abi-Dazim's Horrid Wilting.

My heart swells with happiness as everyone else suffers and dies.

Screw magic-and-weapon-eating spells, I was an area-effect whore.


I still remember the multiple delayed blast fireballs and skull traps into a room fun.

Have a character toss multiples of these into an area, then shoot at a pack of monsters with a bow.

Watch them run right through your happy fun time trap and get annihilated.

Maradon!
posted 08-01-2005 02:59:48 PM
I've always felt magic in general was kinda gimpy under D&D rules.
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 08-01-2005 03:05:40 PM
I picked up Temple of Elemental Evil for 10 bucks the other day since I never got around to buying it when it came out (from all the bugs and stuff that needed to be fixed).

That game is freaking hard... enemies like to spawn in endless waves and healing up is alot harder in this game than any of the Baldur's Gate or NWN games since you will be hit with monster raids anytime you try to rest outside of an inn. Most battles are more about luck with the dice (and I seem to miss alot while the monsters hit alot) than preparing your characters before hand.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Mod
Pancake
posted 08-01-2005 03:28:08 PM
Greater spell sequencers that fire an instant three ADHWs into a room full of enemies are pretty good, you can insta-drop many bosses with it if you lead with a spell sequencer with 3x lower resist.
Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Addy
posted 08-01-2005 04:44:55 PM
Screw you, now I'm wanting to play BG2 again as well. =\

I remember trying to play this multiplayer. It did not work, which was sad.

Mod
Pancake
posted 08-01-2005 04:52:36 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Addy:
Screw you, now I'm wanting to play BG2 again as well. =\

I remember trying to play this multiplayer. It did not work, which was sad.


It worked fine for me, try using www.hamachi.cc.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 08-01-2005 06:14:22 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Addy wrote:
Screw you, now I'm wanting to play BG2 again as well. =\

I remember trying to play this multiplayer. It did not work, which was sad.


Yes, lol. I remember that.

Sean
posted 08-01-2005 06:55:56 PM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about pies:
I've always felt magic in general was kinda gimpy under D&D rules.

To start off with. As it should be.

Casters really come into their game around level 8 - 10, depending on the class. It takes a while to build up the proper spell repertoire to be effective in most situations.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 08-01-2005 07:45:03 PM
And in the expansion, mages are absolutely insane. Time Stop + Improved Alacrity will take out just about anything with the exception of Balthazar, who is immune to Time Stop. And the Demogorgon, but I didn't even try fighting him.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 08-01-2005 09:27:39 PM
Balthazar was hard the first time I fought him. I died . Or rather, I won, but the game crashed right after because of all the crap I had summoned.

Stupid epic monks.

I should probably try fighting Demogorgon sometime.



I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

nem-x
posted 08-01-2005 09:58:55 PM
I just got BG2. I have no idea what I'm doing.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 08-01-2005 10:24:39 PM
quote:
nem-x had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
I just got BG2. I have no idea what I'm doing.

Well, ask questions. I'll help

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-01-2005 10:26:54 PM
IWD > BG
nem-x
posted 08-01-2005 10:46:09 PM
Can I increase the speed of the tooltip popup?
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 08-01-2005 11:53:57 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan was naked while typing this:
IWD > BG

I've really been wanting to play IWD2 lately, but i can't find my CDs. Can't find them for sale anywhere local either.

Dr. Gee fucked around with this message on 08-01-2005 at 11:54 PM.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-02-2005 12:05:53 AM
quote:
Dr. Gee wrote this stupid crap:
I've really been wanting to play IWD2 lately, but i can't find my CDs. Can't find them for sale anywhere local either.

I've been wanting to try it again, except I can't decide between two parties:

Fighter
Barbarian/Paladin/Monk
Wizard
Cleric
Rogue
Bard

or

Fighter
Barbarian/Paladin/Monk
Wizard
Cleric
Rogue
Ranger

The Ranger I could deck out with massive archery feats and have him take out casters like all hell, but I'd miss the Bard songs and the free identifies. Do you remember if Bards get free identifies or if it's just anyone with a high Knowledge (Arcana) skill?

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 08-02-2005 12:09:50 AM
Anyone with a high Knowledge Arcana skill, if I remember right.

I may play a side game of IWD 2 also.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-02-2005 12:15:00 AM
Well, someone go confirm it.
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 08-02-2005 12:26:09 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Well, someone go confirm it.

I seem to remember getting free IDs from my wizard since i had Arcana pumped up on him too.

So do the Ranger.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 08-02-2005 05:01:24 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan wrote this stupid crap:
IWD > BG

No way. IWD is stupid hack and slay. It's like Gauntlet with D&D classes.
You have cleared this dungeon. LEVEL UP! Proceed to the next dungeon.

Like a Baldur's Gate for simpletons. Bleh, boring.

Tarquinn fucked around with this message on 08-02-2005 at 05:07 AM.

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 08-02-2005 05:16:34 AM
Baldur's Gate series is just hands down awesome. Never seen nor heard of a better game.

My last playthroughs of BG2+ToB were as a Cavalier and a CE Fighter.

I really want to get my hands on a copy of BG1, though. It seems to have disappeared from stores.

Maradon!
posted 08-02-2005 06:35:39 AM
quote:
Seaning:
To start off with. As it should be.

Casters really come into their game around level 8 - 10, depending on the class. It takes a while to build up the proper spell repertoire to be effective in most situations.


My main complaint is the "spells per day" crap. A melee character can fight dawn til dusk, but casting characters have a wad that's blown fairly quickly and really aren't any more effective on the whole.

Reagent costs are pretty crappy as well. A fighter pays for a sword once and, barring any artificially inserted events that damage it, keeps it for as long as he likes. A caster has to pay for his raise dead spell once... then keep paying 50g for every cast of it?

Mod
Pancake
posted 08-02-2005 06:51:09 AM
quote:
nem-x wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Can I increase the speed of the tooltip popup?

Move your mouse over the the object whose tooltip you want to see, then hold tab.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Pvednes
Lynched
posted 08-02-2005 07:07:31 AM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Robocop:
My main complaint is the "spells per day" crap. A melee character can fight dawn til dusk, but casting characters have a wad that's blown fairly quickly and really aren't any more effective on the whole.

Reagent costs are pretty crappy as well. A fighter pays for a sword once and, barring any artificially inserted events that damage it, keeps it for as long as he likes. A caster has to pay for his raise dead spell once... then keep paying 50g for every cast of it?


Well...that sword tends not to be quite so spectacular as things like transmuting foes to dust, or eternal imprisonment, or soul-ripping-out, or instant multiple unraisable kills, etc.

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