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Arrenn Lightblade
Yes. Yes he is.
posted 08-24-2004 01:45:35 AM
I don't feel that we are asking a whole lot. All we are saying is take the extra time to type out the entire word or put a capital letter. No one is trying to drive Blackjack away, we just expect that if we are taking the time to read his message, he can take the time to properly type it out.
*Tal*
Pancake
posted 08-24-2004 01:47:43 AM
quote:
Delidgamond had this to say about Knight Rider:
That's just it. You wouldn't ask her to stop if she did that. You'd belittle her first. If she was new and you did that, she probably wouldn't stay (don't hate me for assuming Rosa!).

Givin some of the other things in the past, and some of the shit Rosa and I have talked about...

I doubt it.

No explaining, just do.

They say a smile is a gift which is free to the giver and precious to the recipient. But giving the finger is free too, and I find it more personal and sincere.
nem-x
posted 08-24-2004 02:23:28 AM
Parcelan is Señor Douchebag of the Douchebaggers.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-24-2004 02:25:56 AM
Boo fucking hoo. When you type like an idiot, why should you be treated any differently than any other idiot?

Sorry, no, his glowing reviews from Wingus and Dingus don't cut it. Exceptions can't be made.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 08-24-2004 02:43:18 AM
I've seen his type before. Rather, not him (as in HIS type), I mean his typing.

It comes from too much FPS gaming.. where things are not IRC.

You have to convey your point as quickly as possible in an understandable manner.. it's fine on a pub or planetside..

But not here. Here, you can have HOURS to write a post. Taking an extra minute or two typing into this white box is not going to get your character killed, or get you called a "dumbss fgt" for writing stuff out with proper punctuation. (Yes, that has happened to me many a time)

Magic Bus
Pancake
posted 08-24-2004 12:54:53 PM
BECAUSE GOD KNOWS THAT HOW YOU TYPE ON THE INTERNET IS IMPLICATIVE OF YOUR OVERALL INTELLIGENCE AND MENTAL CAPACITY, AND YOUR MISPELLINGS EASILY DENOTE MY QUITE EVIDENT SUPERIORITY.

AM I RIGHT?

I wrote the above in such fashion to piss some specific people off.

Perhaps it's that I've spent so much time playing First Person Shooters and seen so many people say things quite surpassing Blackjack's ramblings as far as incomprehensability goes, but I've come to find I care little about the spelling and grammar mistakes people make. It's not worth the time to compulse over.

Now, who looks like more of an imbecile...the shorthand aquainted noobie who haplessly arrives on the new boards posting a sensible enough topic or the elitist veteran who takes one look and a post, cites unwritten laws, and declares the afforementioned noob as beneath him, as beneath everyone, and most importantly of all, beneath the forums. BENEATH THE FORUMS, DAMN YOU.

It's true that some of the people who play the fast-paced action games type inane messages and go so far as to put down those who who spend the time to type their messages with accurate spelling and grammar. I can't honestly say that I see this as being much below the actions of some of the people in this thread, who defend their Internet territory by acting as if proper capitalization, spelling, and grammar easily pronounce their place in the superior caste of humanity.

Well, guess what, guys. At the end of the day, you're a well respected member...of some video game forum nobody's ever heard of.

I just felt the need to stop by and post this, seeing as Blackjack is a friend of mine and seeing some of these assholes rip into him for perverting their ever so holy ground of the net with his foul mouth.

I like what Parce says, though. "We'll change to his style." Yeah. You've got a real nice Domino Theory there, Voltaire.

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 08-24-2004 12:58:08 PM
Just goes to show you that the Boards are no different than the world at large. Full of bigotry and hate.
Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 08-24-2004 12:58:25 PM
Welcome to Corneria!
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Aaron (the good one)
posted 08-24-2004 01:01:03 PM
quote:
Katrinity stopped masturbating to porn to say;
Just goes to show you that the Boards are no different than the world at large. Full of bigotry and hate.

Your cookies are fucking disgusting!

Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
I am Canadian and I hate The Tragically Hip
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 08-24-2004 01:03:16 PM
quote:
Delidgamond was naked while typing this:
Your cookies are fucking disgusting!

Y 4 must j00 h8?

quote:
Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Naj
I asked for a title and didn't get banned!
posted 08-24-2004 01:08:38 PM
Bus wins this thread I think.

Who are you in The Militia btw, if I may ask?

Taskmaster Bajah
Pancake
posted 08-24-2004 01:11:54 PM
I'm sorry for not checking this thread sooner. I made the poor assumption that it was two pages about World of Warcraft and wished not to tease myself.

I'm only going to say this once, because if I have to say it again, certain people will be bent over and finding out why my name is LOG.

THIS IS NOT A FLAME THREAD OR A NEWBIE HAZING GROUND. Keep it civil and polite or BAD things will happen.

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 08-24-2004 01:19:47 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about pies:
Boo fucking hoo. When you type like an idiot, why should you be treated any differently than any other idiot?

Sorry, no, his glowing reviews from Wingus and Dingus don't cut it. Exceptions can't be made.


On the contrary, Parcelan. Taran's made the exception. You and Tal both point out that you can't place a lot of faith in me and Rosa's judgement of Blackjack, but you don't address the fact that the owner, creator, maintainer, and administrator of the forums has no problem with Blackjack's presense, and moreso, happens to like the guy as well.

Relz
Pancake
posted 08-24-2004 01:22:24 PM
I have my guesses as to who the Magic Bus is, but I won't spill the beans quite yet...

He may not be a Militia member either... he could be 7th Corps...

But, while what he said was harsh, it was not cool to bag on Blackjack either. He is one of the nicest people I've had the pleasure to game with. He always takes new players under his wing and trains them, even some young 'noob' from another outfit once, and helps them out. He is one of those people that may make the difference for someone going from de-installing PS out of frustration at it's intricacies to someone who was on their way to learning the game and enjoying it.

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 08-24-2004 01:30:08 PM
Blackjack is a good cookie in my book. ^.^

And the WoW idea sounds nifty.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 08-24-2004 01:31:49 PM
Hi Blackjack, and welcome to Evercrest.

I would like to politely ask that you refrain from the shorthand typing when making a post, especally a long one. It makes it very hard to read.

Thank you, and enjoy your stay.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Yuri
posted 08-24-2004 01:41:18 PM
I don't quite see why you are mad at Parce on this matter Khy.. If I brought a friend here that I knew IRL for my whole life and he chose to type like this guy, you would be flaming him to high heaven, but since this guy is your friend, it's Okay?

Double Standards anyone?

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 08-24-2004 01:52:26 PM
quote:
Yuri thought about the meaning of life:
I don't quite see why you are mad at Parce on this matter Khy.. If I brought a friend here that I knew IRL for my whole life and he chose to type like this guy, you would be flaming him to high heaven, but since this guy is your friend, it's Okay?

Double Standards anyone?


On the contrary. When we've had newbies who come in and type in leet speak, I ignore them. How many newbie threads can you find where I've flamed newbies? Seriously, in the past 6 months, which newbie threads have I flamed someone in?

I'll admit to flaming Somthor's newbie thread, but I can't remember a single newbie I've flamed in the past six months for anything at all. Hell, I usually ignore newbie threads entirely.

Blackjack
Pancake
posted 08-24-2004 03:17:53 PM
I feel obliged to post here again since there is many of the people I play with on Planetside defending me, and I didn't intend for this to be some inter-forum war. Most of my shorthand comes so natural to me and I forget that people may not be used to reading it. When I first got here my intention was mostly for Worlds of Warcraft, so defending my lack of precision in which I use my grammer was not something i was goin to get into. I still would like to know whether there is enough poeple interested in WoW for me to come back and offer the guild information when it gets closer to the release date.

And just for the record:

quote:
Boo fucking hoo. When you type like an idiot, why should you be treated any differently than any other idiot?

Sorry, no, his glowing reviews from Wingus and Dingus don't cut it. Exceptions can't be made.


When you post like an idiot does it make you any better than typing like one?

Yes, there may be misspellings, I tried thats all I can say.

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 08-24-2004 03:20:56 PM
Hiyas again Blackjack! There are plenty of us round here that are very interested in World of Warcraft. Just ignore the 'Holier than thou art' ones.

Cookie? <holds up a plate of cookies> ^.^

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 08-24-2004 03:23:25 PM
quote:
I want some of what Magic Bus was smoking when they wrote this:
BECAUSE GOD KNOWS THAT HOW YOU TYPE ON THE INTERNET IS IMPLICATIVE OF YOUR OVERALL INTELLIGENCE AND MENTAL CAPACITY, AND YOUR MISPELLINGS EASILY DENOTE MY QUITE EVIDENT SUPERIORITY.

AM I RIGHT?


Yes, you are.

Since tone and inflection are lost in the transfer to the written word, and since in his previous posts, he obviously didn't put enough time into making a post, he was not deemed (Well, by some members anyway) acceptable.

This is not a video game forum, though most of us play them. This is much more akin to a large village or small town then anything else, and while rules may not be written, it's still common courtesy to say "Hello!" to someone on the street instead of "hi2ufag".

I take neither side in this matter, I am simply playing devil's advocate.

Willias
Pancake
posted 08-24-2004 03:46:12 PM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Delphi Aegis wrote:
Yes, you are.

Since tone and inflection are lost in the transfer to the written word, and since in his previous posts, he obviously didn't put enough time into making a post, he was not deemed (Well, by some members anyway) acceptable.

This is not a video game forum, though most of us play them. This is much more akin to a large village or small town then anything else, and while rules may not be written, it's still common courtesy to say "Hello!" to someone on the street instead of "hi2ufag".

I take neither side in this matter, I am simply playing devil's advocate.


I agree with this man.

Typing everything out in "shorthand" (I guess you could call it that) makes you look extremely lazy, and makes it look like you didn't give enough of a damn to at least attempt to make your post coherant and readable for people just scanning through your post.

Believe it or not, I, for one, have problems reading shorthand, it's like it fucks up my normal reading speed, ya know? So, I for one, dislike shorthand, and almost never use it unless an acronym happens to be ten times easier to type out than the words themselves. (Example: lol, laughing out loud.)

Now, I don't get onto people for spelling. If you can spell the word out somewhat, and it doesn't look like gibberish, I, and others on the forum, can probably figure out what you're trying to say. But, really, is it that hard to add the letters y and o to your yous and yours?

(And just saying something here, I don't agree with Parcelan's newbie rape. While I can understand not liking the shorthand, there is no need for flames to go flying around after ONE post from a guy.)

Also, Blackjack, you Alliance asshat, you should be Horde, not Alliance. Alliance is for the newbie-zerg-dumbasses. Horde is pro.

Willias fucked around with this message on 08-24-2004 at 03:46 PM.

Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 08-24-2004 04:24:23 PM
Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-24-2004 04:24:45 PM
Oh, thank goodness. Since I rejected the opinions of two respected board members, I'll embrace the rantings of some nameless troll here to get revenge for his buddy.

Whatever. Blackjack seems to try now, so I've got no more problems with him.

Mod
Pancake
posted 08-24-2004 04:47:01 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Robocop:
Oh, thank goodness. Since I rejected the opinions of two respected board members, I'll embrace the rantings of some nameless troll here to get revenge for his buddy.

Whatever. Blackjack seems to try now, so I've got no more problems with him.


Do you actually read what people say or do you just judge posts based on the poster's positions on some imaginary picking order you've cooked up in your head?

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-24-2004 04:54:47 PM
quote:
Mod spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Do you actually read what people say or do you just judge posts based on the poster's positions on some imaginary picking order you've cooked up in your head?

I read. It's some nameless doofus here to defend Blackjack's right to act like an imbecile.

Was I mistaken?

Mod
Pancake
posted 08-24-2004 05:04:27 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I read. It's some nameless doofus here to defend Blackjack's right to act like an imbecile.

Was I mistaken?


He didn't troll, my point was that you attacked him based on being 'nameless' as opposed to a 'respected member'.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Ruvyen
Cartoon Broccoli Boy
posted 08-24-2004 05:13:56 PM
quote:
Mod obviously shouldn't have said:
He didn't troll, my point was that you attacked him based on being 'nameless' as opposed to a 'respected member'.

Oh, and this quote...

quote:
Magic Bus likes swords!:
I wrote the above in such fashion to piss some specific people off.

...obviously means absolutely nothing, right?

He wrote the post to anger people. He came here specifically to anger people. (Or perhaps she? We don't exactly know anything about Magic Bus.) This makes Magic Bus a troll.

Not to say, however, that Parce's attacks on Blackjack were really warranted. Yes, shorthand is annoying as all hell, but we could at least be civil to the n00bs. Instead of outright flaming and calling him an idiot, perhaps politely asking him to refrain would be a better idea? Not that it matters now, the issue's over and what's done is done.

Thief: "I have come to a realisation. Dragons are not real in a general sense, but they may exist in certain specific cases."
Fighter: "Like how quantum mechanics describes how subatomic particles can spontaneously pop into existence at random!"
Thief: "No, that's stupid and stop making up words."
--8-Bit Theater
Mr. Parcelan
posted 08-24-2004 05:15:59 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Mod:
He didn't troll, my point was that you attacked him based on being 'nameless' as opposed to a 'respected member'.

He's purple...I don't know him...nobody knows him. Nameless? Check.

He's here to cause trouble by digging up an issue that's been put to rest. Trolling? Check.

Khyron and Lashanna are two respected members whose opinions I didn't believe regarding Blackjack.

Everything looks on the up and up to me.

Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 08-24-2004 05:18:27 PM
Haven't we had this exact same discussion conerning about a half dozen other noobs before? And wasn't the upshot of all that pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth that noobs should lurk a bit, observe, figure out the tone and flow of the board and THEN post accordingly? Wasn't it decided that the burden fell on the poster to express himself in a way that folks could easily understand and NOT on the audience to try and decipher whatever the hell he was saying?

Judging by his last post, Blackjack can express himself coherently, if he wants too. And that's really all we're asking for. Well, that and maybe some good, high-quality pr0n perhaps. So it's not like we're being unreasonable here.

And let's face it, until we really get to know someone, how they type (content AND form) here is all we do to judge them. So if they come in here resplendant in their aura of looking like a "l33t d3wd", that's how they're gonna be percieved. And they have only themselves to blame for that.

Callalron
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