How much faster would one of those fancy new multi core processors be compared to my e8500 duo that's overclocked to 3.8ghz for either gaming/apps?
Also want a case that only uses 120mm fans for quietness and doesn't have the power supply on the bottom like this retarded Antec P180.
They're good for low powered systems for complete silence, or for systems that're overclocked when using fans.
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Check out the big brain on Mortious!
Depends if you're running it with fans or not.They're good for low powered systems for complete silence, or for systems that're overclocked when using fans.
Or, you know, normal systems using fans?
There aren't many ways to fit 120mm fans on a CPU, but given the alternative of having an 65mm fan whirring away at 5000+RPM, a 120mm aftermarket cooler is a cheap way to buy silence. Nina fucked around with this message on 09-17-2011 at 09:14 PM.
Even the stock Intel cooler is surprisingly quiet.
My point was many of these HUGE (and normally quite expensive) tower coolers are simply fads unless you're overclocking and sticking on some high speed 120mm fans. Or running a low power system with no fans. If you're running normal fans in a normal system.. then congrats you just spent a lot more than someone else who's going to hear about 4db more than you. OH THE NOISE. THE HORROR. 
My system has a stock Intel cooler and I can barely hear it, the sound of a mechanical drive is louder.
Though if he is overclocking, two thumbs up. Good cooler.
Current system:
Lian Li mid-tower case
Intel 2.66 GHz quad-core processor
4 GB shitty RAM
320 GB WD ATA hard drive (note this & the RAM seem to be my system bottlenecks)
GeForce 8800 GTS
I'm using the on-board sound, since the X-FI card doesn't seem to work
2x 19-inch 16x9 monitors
Win7 Ultimate
Uses:
I primarily game on console now, but I do play the occasional game on the PC, and will probably get back into the MMORPGEIEIO world the next time something looks interesting. I want to keep the high end gaming options open, while having enough memory and graphics horsepower to do better photo/video editing than I can with the current system.
I'm pretty much only interested in Intel chips (I hear we're looking at 6-core now?), and prefer GeForce video unless something's radically changed lately.
So what should I base the new system around? I'd like a mobo that is stable and can handle a bucketful of RAM, and a way to set up a hard drive (not really interested in SSDs right now, but might be talked into it) that's faster than the current 5800rpm ATA setup. Not really interest in budget solutions, either; looking for high end w/o being bleeding edge--it's usually obvious where the $$ skyrocket for minimal performance gain.
Ideas?
Edit: I built the current system Christmas of '06. Bloodsage fucked around with this message on 09-18-2011 at 04:36 PM.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
i5 2500k
ridiculous nh-d14 cooler that may not fit the case you choose
Hyper 212 alternative cooler thats smaller and cheaper
8gb ram ddr3 1600
asus p8p67 mobo
650w modular power supply
gtx 560 ti
Only overclocked the cpu 4.4ghz for the time being because its giving me guff.
As for SSD, I couldn't recommend them enough. The difference is ridiculous. Cold boot to being able to browse in about 20 seconds.. apps like photoshop in around 5 seconds.
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EVGA 012-P3-1571-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card -- $329.99
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K -- $219.99
Rosewill RCR-AK-IM5002 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Card Reader w/ 3 ports USB2.0 Hub / eSATA port / Extra silver face plate / SATA Power -- $19.99
Kingston HyperX 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) XMP Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX -- $89.99
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case -- $89.99
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply -- $134.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1502FAEX 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive -- $99.99 (x2)
LG CD/DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP21 -- $21.99
EVGA 131-GT-E767-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 SLI3 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -- $184.99
Grand Total:$1,291.90 Falaanla Marr fucked around with this message on 09-18-2011 at 06:09 PM.
Falaanla Marr fucked around with this message on 09-18-2011 at 06:37 PM.
You can run all your wires behind the motherboard backplate. There is also a cutaway behind the cpu so you can install a heatsink without taking the motherboard out of the case.
Dell U2410?
It's rather nice. 
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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So quoth Bloodsage:
Why go i5 2500 instead of i7 980, say?
Complete overkill until you're working in scientific or video (especially live streaming) applications. It's perfectly fine to stick with the i5 if you have a limited budget. The money is better spent on a higher-end video card or perhaps a larger monitor.
That, and if you're buying a computer now for those purposes now, you'd want an i7-2600k anyway. The Sandy Bridge advantage cannot be overstated. Kegwen fucked around with this message on 09-19-2011 at 05:44 PM.
Very few games take full advantage of multi threading, or even place a heavy load on the CPU over the GPU. I can rock The Witcher 2 on full graphics settings just fine because it shoves everything on the GPU. To be honest as long as you have a CPU that you know won't create a bottleneck for the rest of the system, you're golden in regards to gaming. Media creation is another matter but I don't do a lot of that anyway.
Pretty much at the limit of what my old socket 775 DDR2 board can take though.
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Cuba:
Here's what I'm currently looking at building. Prices are from Newegg. I'm going to be putting my current GTX570 in the system and running it SLI with this new one. I'm coming from a system where I am not going to be able to use any of the current parts save for the video card (currently have a Q6600 based system). May give you something to go off of, Bloodsage:-----
EVGA 012-P3-1571-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card -- $329.99
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K -- $219.99
Rosewill RCR-AK-IM5002 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Card Reader w/ 3 ports USB2.0 Hub / eSATA port / Extra silver face plate / SATA Power -- $19.99
Kingston HyperX 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) XMP Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX -- $89.99
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case -- $89.99
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply -- $134.99
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1502FAEX 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive -- $99.99 (x2)
LG CD/DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP21 -- $21.99
EVGA 131-GT-E767-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 SLI3 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -- $184.99
Grand Total:$1,291.90
Is that wattage going to be enough to support both video cards? Aren't those usually in the 350 - 400w requirement?
And that seems kind of pricey for only 850w.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Plus we're running like 2.7GHz dual cores and quad cores have really come down in price. We're still on XP too and if I'm looking to upgrade Windows version, I want to bump up the hard drive space and go up to two monitors at the same time. Especially with how easy 7 has made setting up two monitors.
It's just really time for a good upgrade.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Socket 775 quad-cores should be quite reasonable by now, along with another couple of the same memory sticks and an upgrade to Win7 in order to run a DX10/11 compliant video card, should put me in a pretty good position for new games coming out.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Man, who wouldn't want to be Karnaj:
I want to get a new computer, but I've run out of fucks to give when it comes to building a system. Should I just go to Best Buy or the like and buy one?
I would get an alienware from dell if you want something pre-assembled and have it gaming ready.
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Aw, geez, I have Blindy. all over myself!
I would get an alienware from dell if you want something pre-assembled and have it gaming ready.
Could I save money by getting a regular desktop and slapping a video card in it after the fact(assuming it meets prerequisites for power, mobo, etc)? I want to avoid, if possible, paying a premium for, say, a fancy case or the Alienware logo.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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We were all impressed when Karnaj wrote:
Could I save money by getting a regular desktop and slapping a video card in it after the fact(assuming it meets prerequisites for power, mobo, etc)? I want to avoid, if possible, paying a premium for, say, a fancy case or the Alienware logo.
That's the issue, most anything targeted at a consumer-level type is going to have a power supply that will be nowhere near what you need.
How up for buying the parts and just having a friend build it for you? Best way to go if you're after saving money. Otherwise, you'll need to go with a prebuilt targeted at a gamer. I know iBuypower used to be decently priced, and I had one of their systems last for awhile, from when I used it to when I passed it down to my brother. Maybe a Dell XPS from Best Buy would be decent for what you want, too.
Then you try to put in the video card, but there's a capacitor right where the heat sink is supposed to go.
Trust me, you don't want to just buy a random off the shelf PC and try to make it a gaming computer. Either buy one that's already got gaming credentials, or have someone build it for you.
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How.... Mortious.... uughhhhhh:
congrats you just spent a lot more than someone else who's going to hear about 4db more than you.
Thirty dollars for a 120mm heatsink & fan that'll stay silent even under max load! Oh no! 
I used stock Intel for a while and yes, it's silent when idle but it'd rev up and get annoying whenever I'd do any serious processing. Got the single fan Coolermaster that Nem-x linked, and not a peep. Nina fucked around with this message on 09-25-2011 at 07:24 PM.
I am running SolidWorks (3D CAD), AutoCAD, and also run electronic design software as well as do software development... I have Win7 available and will be upgrading to it when I get the build and have 2 1TB drives to use in a Raid 1 Storage in my office.
Thoughts/ideas?
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Monitors
2x Dell U2412M $719.98 for both
System
LG CD/DVD Burner Black $21.99
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Case $139.99
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M $129.99
Rosewill 75 in 1 Card Reader $19.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $93.98
MSI Z68A-GD55 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel Z68 $159.99
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz $219.99
Intel 320 Series 120GB SSD $218.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $34.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium OEM $99.99
Total: $1,857.87
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Mr. Parcelan's complete misunderstanding of life manifested itself when they said:
i have a mac
Fag.
No sense in "wasting" a quad-core chip and 8gb of ram... just needs drives and a couple of pci-e controllers (onboard SATA isn't 6gb)
Picked up a new (Slimmer) case to fit inside the end-drawer of the table; and had to convert my video card to a Low-profile setting to fit it inside the case.
Video is all set up at this point; running to both the projector and the coffee table's screen. Next step involves buying the capacitive touch screen, and integrating it with a new glass tabletop I'll have to have built.
Thinking of etching a mural of some kind into the glass around the screen-space to glow with the monitor's diffused light; but not sure about the extra ambient light interfering with the projector.
I'll toss pics up once I remember. 
