Actually, let's hope it scales, period.
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Genetic modification is set of techniques, not an additive. It does exactly the same thing as the breeding techniques that have been used for many thousands of years, it just does it better. GM is to traditional breeding methods as steel was to iron.
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Pvednes's complete misunderstanding of life manifested itself when they said:
That whole "are people ready to put GM in their cars" "it's not the same as GM food!" thing really, really annoys me though.Genetic modification is set of techniques, not an additive. It does exactly the same thing as the breeding techniques that have been used for many thousands of years, it just does it better. GM is to traditional breeding methods as steel was to iron.
I'd say more like steel to flint.
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Blindy. had this to say about Captain Planet:
I'd say more like steel to flint.
I dunno, you can still do some really funky tricks with traditional breeding methods.
Step 1: Irradiate plants and breed them.
Step 2: Select mutant offspring with the desired LOF phenotype
Step 3: Breed them to wild-type to produce heterozygotes for the trait
Step 4: Breed heterozygotes together and select for homozygotes for the trait
Step 5: Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you have bred out all the unwanted mutations and have a pure strain.
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I gotta give it to Pvednes with:
For example, looking back to the 1930s, try this one:Step 1: Irradiate plants and breed them.
Step 2: Select mutant offspring with the desired LOF phenotype
Step 3: Breed them to wild-type to produce heterozygotes for the trait
Step 4: Breed heterozygotes together and select for homozygotes for the trait
Step 5: Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you have bred out all the unwanted mutations and have a pure strain.
That seems like iron to me, but I think when you start irradiating in order to encourage random mutations you're going beyond natural methods. (Not that that's a bad thing, just to hold to the analogy)
Traditional breeding methods by my count would be more like "Hey that thar cow is big and this thar cow is big let's get them to get it on." Blindy. fucked around with this message on 06-19-2008 at 11:34 AM.
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Check out the big brain on Blindy.!
That seems like iron to me, but I think when you start irradiating in order to encourage random mutations you're going beyond natural methods. (Not that that's a bad thing, just to hold to the analogy)Traditional breeding methods by my count would be more like "Hey that thar cow is big and this thar cow is big let's get them to get it on."
It's always been a technology, even at the very dawn of civilization. No-one said anything about "natural". Pvednes fucked around with this message on 06-19-2008 at 11:57 AM.
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Pvednes had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
No-one said anything about "natural".
I'm quoting this because it'll probably be used at your trial as prosecution evidence.
This is a pretty neat breakthrough, though. Even with politicians trying to muck up the lot, progress can't be stopped.
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Check out the big brain on Pvednes!
Meh. Technically, anything that exists is natural, no matter how artificial it is as well. All mankind and the civilization that we've built exists as a part of nature.
heathen. death's not natural. it's the wage of sin!
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Hay guys what's going on in this Vorbis?
heathen. death's not natural. it's the wage of sin!
Strangely enough, that's one of the places where a naturalist worldview kinda overlaps a bit with a Christian one, at least in flavour.
If your behaviour conflicts with the natural order of things, you die, and die forever. If you live in accordance with it however, your progeny will continue indefinitely.
[Edit: Which is something you should care about, otherwise who will? Nature certainly won't.] Pvednes fucked around with this message on 06-19-2008 at 12:32 PM.
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Pvednes impressed everyone with:
Strangely enough, that's one of the places where a naturalist worldview kinda overlaps a bit with a Christian one, at least in flavour.If your behaviour conflicts with the natural order of things, you die, and die forever. If you live in accordance with it however, your progeny will continue indefinitely.
[Edit: Which is something you should care about, otherwise who will? Nature certainly won't.]
A naturalist worldview should be mostly overlapped with the Christian, at least so far as they understand the physical world.
Justin Martyr is great for being the absolute prick that said, "If it's true, it's Christian." I love that kid. 
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Pvednes attempted to be funny by writing:
I dunno, you can still do some really funky tricks with traditional breeding methods.
I always thought Corn was an amazeing example of this.
THAT would be the shit. (So to speak)
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Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Without Genetic modification. Only took like 200 years. No we could do it in like 2. WHY DO PEOPLE NOT LIKE GENETIC MODIFICATION!?!
and yes, capslocks makes you louder.
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We were all impressed when Y.O.T.C wrote:
You people realize corn is actually a type of grass that we've modified into what it is now?Without Genetic modification. Only took like 200 years. No we could do it in like 2. WHY DO PEOPLE NOT LIKE GENETIC MODIFICATION!?!
and yes, capslocks makes you louder.
Are you fucking stupid.
Still waiting.
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nem-x's account was hax0red to write:
didnt we also find the cure to cancer several times
We also found a new kind of sound wave that would be used in stunning suspects for the police and letting everyone hear equally at concerts.
I'm getting jaded by the often false-hopes of the internet from supposedly credible news sources.
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ACES! Another post by Y.O.T.C:
You people realize corn is actually a type of grass that we've modified into what it is now?Without Genetic modification. Only took like 200 years. No we could do it in like 2. WHY DO PEOPLE NOT LIKE GENETIC MODIFICATION!?!
and yes, capslocks makes you louder.
Did you know that golden pears are delicious?
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Steven Steve said:
Did you know that golden pears are delicious?
I fucking love bartlett pears.
eat uuuussss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosc_Pear Steven Steve fucked around with this message on 06-22-2008 at 05:32 PM.
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Because that's what happens if you eat too many strawberries.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Vorbis screamed this from the crapper:
Karnaj has a strawgina?
Not yet.
But it's getting there. I'm growing it on my elbow.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
