Still iffy, but if it's true, this just reinforces my notion that they don't know when to stop with nerfs.
They nerfed Warriors into uselessness when Warriors were top of the heap, now Paladins seem like they're going to be taken out of commission, too. As if they didn't have enough problems getting HKs.
If it's not true, go Paladins.
If it is true: Rogues, watch your backs. You're next.
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WR = ez mode
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I really, really hope that's just a bug. If it isn't, every paladin in the game might as well reroll warrior because about the only thing we had left was our survivability and our heals in PVP.
Scratch that. Looks like they nuked the entire Paladin board. Azizza fucked around with this message on 04-26-2005 at 09:36 AM.
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Looks like they nuked the thread.Scratch that. Looks like they nuked the entire Paladin board.
's patch day, I think the forums have gone wonky due to that.
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Further on in the thread someone posts about DS eliminating agro, is this true? If so, then I wouldn't see if getting fixed since that's also what Vanish and Feign Death do. Having an easy way to lose agro but maintain CP's would be so broken.
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DarkDragoon probably says this to all the girls:
I hope this is true, it will bring the paladins in line with the cp nerfs other classes such as rogues and hunters got. Who knows, it may even tone down the amount of idiot paladins that go running into the enemy army to drop a consecration and run out worry free.
Because massive HKs means the world am i rite??
GO GO TARREN MILL RAIDS GO GO GO GO
tip: number of hk points means nothing, raids = suck
edit: I've actually noticed that priests/druids on my server seem to have the most points. Healing = CP? Addy fucked around with this message on 04-26-2005 at 04:32 PM.
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Because massive HKs means the world am i rite??GO GO TARREN MILL RAIDS GO GO GO GO
tip: number of hk points means nothing, raids = suck
Raids are truly the suck for honor. I'd rather gank someone. ;D
Edit for joo: As far as I know, healing doesn't contribute anything directly. But yeah, Priests and Druids do seem to be winning. Though my entire guild is like, in the top 100. Batty fucked around with this message on 04-26-2005 at 04:35 PM.
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Raids are truly the suck for honor. I'd rather gank someone. ;D
That's all rogues have. :\
Suicide runs are fun though. Try to take down someone before 30+ horde kill you.
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That's all rogues have. :\Suicide runs are fun though. Try to take down someone before 30+ horde kill you.
Funny story last night. 2 Rogues were attacking Crossroads, 60 and a 53. The 53 tries to goad me into attacking (like I didn't notice the 60 stealthing and knew he'd jump me as soon as I attacked) then this 46 Rogue attacks the 53...60 jumps him instead, so I destroy both of them. Rogues are funny. 
But suicide runs are awesome. I love dying behind enemy lines, rezzing RIGHT behind a caster and killing them before they realize a Tauren Shaman just appeared right on their head.
I'm assuming he was in the 55 to 60 range since he was killing the level 50 to 55 guards, but he only registered as a ??.Sneak up behind him dead, target, rez, backstab and 3 seconds later get a Raptor Strike for my troubles. 
I was amused. He put up a decent fight against the assembled masses, but once his pet was down, he fell shortly afterwards.
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Funny story last night. 2 Rogues were attacking Crossroads, 60 and a 53. The 53 tries to goad me into attacking (like I didn't notice the 60 stealthing and knew he'd jump me as soon as I attacked) then this 46 Rogue attacks the 53...60 jumps him instead, so I destroy both of them. Rogues are funny.But suicide runs are awesome. I love dying behind enemy lines, rezzing RIGHT behind a caster and killing them before they realize a Tauren Shaman just appeared right on their head.
Makes me wish even more that I chose gnome so I could morph into a tauren rogue.
Even though it'd eliminate stealth abilities...
IT'D BE WORTH IT OKAY
Here is a gank protip for rogues!
1.) Find a non warrior that is semi stranded. Warlocks are ideal!
2.) Ambush/backstab for life. If you are a sword build, gg ss spam.
3.) sprint
4.) you win!
Man that depresses me just reading it. I sooo should have been a shadow priest. (Undead shadowpriest on our server has over 60k CP...)
The rank 76ish people on my server only have around 15k each...or maybe I missed a digit and it's 150k. I'll have to check. And just did check someone...rank 115 and only 10k cp. Wtf. quote:
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I honestly think after hearing someone on a PvE server has that many points...that they jacked up cp on PvE servers or something.The rank 76ish people on my server only have around 15k each...or maybe I missed a digit and it's 150k. I'll have to check. And just did check someone...rank 115 and only 10k cp. Wtf.
Hey hey, I'm rank 52 with 6400 points GO ALLIANCE
The shadowpriest is #1 horde side.
Gadani fucked around with this message on 04-26-2005 at 05:08 PM.
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Addy wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Hey hey, I'm rank 52 with 6400 pointsGO ALLIANCE
The shadowpriest is #1 horde side.
...I've only been able to PvP for one day and I already have more cp than you.
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x--AddyO-('-'Q) :
Here is a gank protip for rogues!1.) Find a non warrior that is semi stranded. Warlocks are ideal!
2.) Ambush/backstab for life. If you are a sword build, gg ss spam.
3.) sprint
4.) you win!
I always loved killing rogues that tried to do this to me 
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edit: I've actually noticed that priests/druids on my server seem to have the most points. Healing = CP?
Hunters are the most frequent class in the top 1/3/5/10 on most PvP servers right now. Unsure about PvE servers though.
Take that you bitching hunters. Talonus fucked around with this message on 04-26-2005 at 05:24 PM.
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ACES! Another post by Addy:
Makes me wish even more that I chose gnome so I could morph into a tauren rogue.Even though it'd eliminate stealth abilities...
IT'D BE WORTH IT OKAY
Here is a gank protip for rogues!
1.) Find a non warrior that is semi stranded. Warlocks are ideal!
2.) Ambush/backstab for life. If you are a sword build, gg ss spam.
3.) sprint
4.) you win!Man that depresses me just reading it.
I sooo should have been a shadow priest. (Undead shadowpriest on our server has over 60k CP...)
A bovine backstabber... that would be amusing to see.
And what is gg? I know what SS is. I know what GS would be (but neither of the rogues I have have it that I can remember).
And since you're of the stabbity-stabbity persuasion, do you find it worthwhile to carry a dagger to stab with? I remember someone saying that you were a sword/mace Crit rogue setup so I was wondering if you had advice on weapon swappers or anything like that.
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Hunters are the most frequent class in the top 1/3/5/10 on most PvP servers right now. Unsure about PvE servers though.Take that you bitching hunters.
Proof please. Not saying its not possible, but eh...
Specially since Feign will cause you to lose ALL CPs on any targets you've tagged.
Also, like mages, you can rack up some CPs just by tossing in a volley to tag. And ganking while viable, isnt very usefull in a lot of cases. (Cept against idiot mages and priests, but any semi decent one will take care of that.)
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A bovine backstabber... that would be amusing to see.And what is gg?
I know what SS is. I know what GS would be (but neither of the rogues I have have it that I can remember).
And since you're of the stabbity-stabbity persuasion, do you find it worthwhile to carry a dagger to stab with? I remember someone saying that you were a sword/mace Crit rogue setup so I was wondering if you had advice on weapon swappers or anything like that.
GG=Good Game
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GG=Good Game
I thought that, but it does not make sense here. Usually that's "gg next map" or the like.
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Hey hey, I'm rank 52 with 6400 pointsThe shadowpriest is #1 horde side.
This is based on the amount of people overall on the server right?
Cause I have almost as many CPs but I'm only rank 153.
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Proof please.Specially since Feign will cause you to lose ALL CPs on any targets you've tagged.
Also, like mages, you can rack up some CPs just by tossing in a volley to tag. And ganking while viable, isnt very usefull in a lot of cases. (Cept against idiot mages and priests, but any semi decent one will take care of that.)
Not going to ask people to take screenshots. If you don't want to take my word for it, meh.
Its simple though. Hunters have ranged abilities, but aren't targetted for ganks like cloth users are. Its about hitting many people, not doing all the damage. Oh, and not joining a raid group. Raid groups are bad.
Oh, and I've heard a rumor that flare gives you contribution points. As any rogue/druid will tell you, FLARE FUCKING SUCKS AND THEY HATE THE G'DAMN OVERPOWERED SPAMMY PIECE OF SHIT ANNOYING ABILITY. ^_^
Penalizing a class for using a core ability in such a way is unfair.
That's just my opinion. And I feel the same way about rogues and hunters. But at least they don't have to use those abilities to win fights.
Then they could compensate paladins with increased dps.
It'd make the class less cheap and more fun to play.
That said, paladin damage may need a boost on PvE, but not in PvP, i've had too many fights with paladins that just started wailing on my mail wearing character with 200+ damage hits that proc'd 200+ damage procs all while im stunned. You guys aren't nearly as gimp as you claim.
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Lemme put it this way, if you absolutely need divine shield to win a battle, then there is something wrong with both your class and the divine shield, no single skill should make the battle go from guarenteed loss to WIN!That said, paladin damage may need a boost on PvE, but not in PvP, i've had too many fights with paladins that just started wailing on my mail wearing character with 200+ damage hits that proc'd 200+ damage procs all while im stunned. You guys aren't nearly as gimp as you claim.
Uh...this makes no sense.
If you're a Warrior and you absolutely NEED Heroic Strike to win a battle, then there is something wrong.
If you're a Mage and you NEED Fireball to win, something's wrong.
DS is a class ability. People use their class abilities in-game.
Paladins have already *been* brought in line. Sure, they have huge survivability, but that's about it. Their crap DPS ensures that you really can't get ganked by a Paladin unless you absolutely want to.
If he hits DS, who cares? Just run off and find an easier kill.
I am confused.
Are the skills useful? Lets take Vanish for instance. (A good example because it wipes cp's too) Can a Rogue fight and win without using Vanish? YES! Does it make the battle so much easier its not funny when you can Ambush-Vanish-Ambush-Premed-Vanish-Ambush?
I'm sorry, but if you can't see that balancing a class on a single ability is assine, then you really are too stupid to be having this conversation.
Oh, and yea... running away from a paladin is great, except for the fact that ohhh, they generally don't walk around by themselves? And they kinda make anyone in their party impossible to beat because they just heal them? (and its not like you can kill the healing paladin first unless you wanna spend 5 minutes attacking them while their buddy nails ya.)
The classes are balanced around the presumption that they will use everything at their disposal.
And Paladins run around alone all the time, unless they're in a PvP raid, in which case you should be in a group, too.
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Actually, Parce, it DOES make sense. If the mage class can't win without Fireball (oh I dunno, maybe cast an ICE or ARCANE spell or any of there other fire spells besides fireball?) then yes, something is wrong, a SINGLE class ability is not ment to be the end all be all of the class.
Except nearly every class in the game is like that.
Let's see how far you get as a warlock that doesn't use fear. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 04-27-2005 at 12:47 AM.
